Being Lazy can sure be COSTLY!!

[tempbrit]

Ok, so I am about to make a buy that consists of Tren and Var and a few other compounds.

A buddy got me to look into buying powders and caping and suspending. I guess I am in a bit of shock as to the cost savings. Then on top of that, I think most believe that the results are better than buying solutions already suspended.

Is capping Var or suspending Tren Powder in Oil that difficult? Or is the investment to do this that high???

Am I losing it??????

[Snrf]

its pretty easy and cheap...i'm in the process of doing all mine for my first cycle...look in the laboratory forum for recipes

[AlphaLdr]

It is a lot cheaper, but you also have to weigh the facts of the source from where ever you purchase your powders. My first was a huge savings, and when tested was very weak. So be careful, but yes, being lazy can be very costly.

[fLgAtOr]

Keep in mind the consequences of being found with several hundred grams of powders/brewing supplies versus several vials.

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Keep in mind the consequences of being found with several hundred grams of powders/brewing supplies versus several vials.

It's nice to see that someone is listening....

In New Jersey (where I live) penalties for posession and distribution are the same, more or less, with minor differences. 10 miles away, in New York City, posession is a misdemenor, while posession with intent to distribute (or manufacture) is a felony. The difference? You get a maximum of one year in prison for a misdemenor, while for a felony it's a maximum of 7 years.

[fLgAtOr]

It's nice to see that someone is listening....

In New Jersey (where I live) penalties for posession and distribution are the same, more or less, with minor differences. 10 miles away, in New York City, posession is a misdemenor, while posession with intent to distribute (or manufacture) is a felony. The difference? You get a maximum of one year in prison for a misdemenor, while for a felony it's a maximum of 7 years.

Not neccessarily agreeing or disagreeing...But its def. important to consider. Especially when there aren't very many domestic p. supp. Cha know?

Shiiiit...I should of been a chemist...****in business major ...

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Not neccessarily agreeing or disagreeing...But its def. important to consider. Especially when there aren't very many domestic p. supp. Cha know?

Shiiiit...I should of been a chemist...****in business major ...

The temptation is always there, man. I could get huge cycles for free from my buddies in the underground, or I can be safe and go with Oasis, and be on HRT. I choose the safe route, and I think more people should too...

Even if we're only being more safe by not manufacturing our own gear, it's a start. I (we) don't need to see anyone else in prison for AAS. I'm good friends with one of the guys who went down in the Tt bust, and with another person (girl) who is a female vet here, and currently in the legal system for AAS....and although I didn't know him, there's a steroid.com (former) mod in prison right now, for manslaughter (he gave a kid advice on DNP, and sold him some, and the kid died from it)...

The last thing I want is more horror stories of people going to jail...

[tempbrit]

I completely agree. I currently live in the UK now. The rules are a bit more lax over here. Especially with importing.

I also travel extensively internationally and use Oasis products to avoid issues at immigration.

I am going to do the powder, but in moderation. Granted in moderation usually means enough powder for a few cycles.

I do agree that caution should be observed.

I will say again though that it is alarming how much cheaper the powder can be. Especially when you are talking substances like VAR.

[fLgAtOr]

The temptation is always there, man. I could get huge cycles for free from my buddies in the underground, or I can be safe and go with Oasis, and be on HRT. I choose the safe route, and I think more people should too...

Even if we're only being more safe by not manufacturing our own gear, it's a start. I (we) don't need to see anyone else in prison for AAS. I'm good friends with one of the guys who went down in the Tt bust, and with another person (girl) who is a female vet here, and currently in the legal system for AAS....and although I didn't know him, there's a steroid.com (former) mod in prison right now, for manslaughter (he gave a kid advice on DNP, and sold him some, and the kid died from it)...

The last thing I want is more horror stories of people going to jail...

We walk a fine line around here. We want to guide people in the safest direction possible...Give them advice when needed. And we try to keep people focused on the original goal: "Bettering" themselves.

And what happens when the shit hits the fan:
"Steroid.com come promotes kids killing themselves with steroids!"

[Selene]

Ok, so I am about to make a buy that consists of Tren and Var and a few other compounds.

A buddy got me to look into buying powders and caping and suspending. I guess I am in a bit of shock as to the cost savings. Then on top of that, I think most believe that the results are better than buying solutions already suspended.

Is capping Var or suspending Tren Powder in Oil that difficult? Or is the investment to do this that high???

Am I losing it??????

IMO anyone who does home brewing is playing russion roulette with their health and their body. You do not have the proper equipment to ensure
sterility of the product but this just my opinion

[topvega]

Yes it a lot cheaper but you pay a higher price in risks... From getting weak powder, not following proper sterilization methods and getting infections, all the way up to getting popped with many many grams of an illegal compound and doing hard time... I choose to take the risk and have been fortunate enough to not have had any problems. But my heart still races every time I have to sign for that pkg when it comes in the mail. You can never be sure it is not a controlled delivery and they are not going to slap the cuffs on ya...

[tempbrit]

Yes it a lot cheaper but you pay a higher price in risks... From getting weak powder, not following proper sterilization methods and getting infections, all the way up to getting popped with many many grams of an illegal compound and doing hard time... I choose to take the risk and have been fortunate enough to not have had any problems. But my heart still races every time I have to sign for that pkg when it comes in the mail. You can never be sure it is not a controlled delivery and they are not going to slap the cuffs on ya...

Fair points. I am not so sure I would do a large powder purpose in the US.

I remember when I was coming back from Brazil and I was carrying a couple hundred AMPs of gear. I travelled that route literally hundreds of times and never got looked at. The one time with gear, they had me go through the special scanner in Customs. However, they let me walk right through.

Considering Tren is really the only powder I am going to suspend, everything else is cap, I am not so sure the risk is any greater than using Fina Pellets. Maybe that is not the case, but I appreciate the input.

[tempbrit]

We walk a fine line around here. We want to guide people in the safest direction possible...Give them advice when needed. And we try to keep people focused on the original goal: "Bettering" themselves.

And what happens when the shit hits the fan:
"Steroid.com come promotes kids killing themselves with steroids!"

Not sure if you are implying that I am a kid. Hardly the case, I am pushing 40.

I hear what you are saying though.

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We walk a fine line around here. We want to guide people in the safest direction possible...Give them advice when needed. And we try to keep people focused on the original goal: "Bettering" themselves.

And what happens when the shit hits the fan:
"Steroid.com come promotes kids killing themselves with steroids!"

I think we all need to up the level of safe, good information here. Myself included.

[fLgAtOr]

IMO anyone who does home brewing is playing russion roulette with their health and their body. You do not have the proper equipment to ensure
sterility of the product but this just my opinion

This is complete bullshit though...

[fLgAtOr]

Not sure if you are implying that I am a kid. Hardly the case, I am pushing 40.

I hear what you are saying though.

Not at all bro...we just got off on a tangent.

[MorganKane]

IMO anyone who does home brewing is playing russion roulette with their health and their body. You do not have the proper equipment to ensure
sterility of the product but this just my opinion

Its obvious you have no clue how steroids are made and how you homebrew.

[bbplaya21]

IMO anyone who does home brewing is playing russion roulette with their health and their body. You do not have the proper equipment to ensure
sterility of the product but this just my opinion

i disagree im sure most of are homebrewing methods are prob safer and cleaner than half the UGL's out there. Personally i would rather make it myslef if i cant get human grade cuz i know how everything was put together and what products are going in and not just thrown half ass together.

[cfiler]

It's nice to see that someone is listening....

In New Jersey (where I live) penalties for posession and distribution are the same, more or less, with minor differences. 10 miles away, in New York City, posession is a misdemenor, while posession with intent to distribute (or manufacture) is a felony. The difference? You get a maximum of one year in prison for a misdemenor, while for a felony it's a maximum of 7 years.

True. For me, in Canada person possession is fine, but powers become intent to distribute and that's serious jail time.

For me, it's not worth the risk.

[Maetenloch]

IMO anyone who does home brewing is playing russion roulette with their health and their body. You do not have the proper equipment to ensure
sterility of the product but this just my opinion

Not true - if you follow proper procedures and use fresh syringes and filters, your home brew should be just as clean as that made at a compounding pharmacy.

[tempbrit]

Well considering that I am no longer in the US and considering the savings that I will be obtaining (and an increase in accurate dosings), I am investing in Scales, cappers and going to go the powder route. Even with the investment, I am still saving HUGE $$$.

I also like the control over the end product. I might send off for a test to see how my brews turn out.

I will update.

Thanks for everyone's input.

[shot60]

good -on-ya mate