Upping the dose

[Mista Massive]

Hey guys,

here's the deal. i'm on a test e bladder, (animal grade) what i think is 500mg/week. now i don't know if it's cos it's animal grade or cos i just need more test, but i ain't really seeing much improvement apart from some acne on my shoulder's and back. the acne is extremley light but it is there. The test is legit. my training is spot on. when i was natural i gained heaps, i thought on gear i would gain a lot more. what am i doing wrong. any ideas

i eat 4,000 clean calories a day.

Breakfast
2 peices whole wheat toast
4 whole eggs
1 banana
glass skim milk
tablespoon flax/virgin olive oil


Morning snack
meal replacement shake consisting of 40grams protein/40grams carbs in skim milk. OR bowl pasta with whey protein shake
Apple

Lunch
Plate of Peas or mixed vegies
Baked potatoes
chicken breasts


Pre-Workout
Bowl of oatmeal
Whey protein shake in skim milk
Apple

Post workout
simple carbs in a shake for insulin spike
white rice to prevent insulin crash
chicken

1 hour after
some more simple carbs/protein like above

pre-bedtime
2scoops whey in skim milk
1/4 bowl cottage cheese
tablespoon flax/virgin olive oil



When i was natural i gained heaps on this diet. i my training progressed so did my calories and i ate so much that my fat% started rising quite a bit

any ideas are welcomed

i am 5'7" 180lbs

[Mista Massive]

the dosage is written on the box like this

testosterone enanthate 75mg/mL

(equivalent to 54mg/mL Testosterone)








now i was told to go by the 75mg/mL figure as that is the ester. is this right?

[Mista Massive]

i'm 4.5 weeks in with hardly any weight gain.

just a lil strength. should i wait longer, up the dose, or just stop.

[Mista Massive]

bump

[Kale]

Dude dont sweat it yet. Just keep doing what you are doing. It can take five to six weeks sometimes for Test E to really kick in.

[aboulaly]

test enenthate takes a while to kick in that's why you should use test prop or suspension for the first 4 weeks as a kick start, and if you are only using test E you will start noticing changes on week 5-6 so wait a bit mate.

[Mista Massive]

fellow aussies. thanks for the help.

i didn't kick start as this was my first cycle and like 99% of ppl said just do the test e only.

are you sure i'm meant to be going by the ester figure. normally i would, but so many ppl here in melbourne say go by the testosterone figure

[Mista Massive]

how long should i wait after PCT to do another cycle. not that i want to do one staright away, it's just something i'm not sure of when ppl ask me

[Mista Massive]

what about dbol mid-cycle?

[aboulaly]

you should wait the same time you were on plus 4 weeks, and you should do a blood test before any cycle, during and after your pct so you can keep a record of your readings, as for the ester figure don't worry to what's equivilant to because all steroids once you take the ester weight,powder weight , the figures will be different, take sus250 it's = to 170mg.

[Mista Massive]

you should wait the same time you were on plus 4 weeks, and you should do a blood test before any cycle, during and after your pct so you can keep a record of your readings, as for the ester figure don't worry to what's equivilant to because all steroids once you take the ester weight,powder weight , the figures will be different, take sus250 it's = to 170mg.

but treated as 250mg, i understand and it makes sense

have you orderedstuff from a-r before.
i ordered l-dex and nolva, they checked it but still let it through. i want to know if clomid will get through ok

[aboulaly]

but treated as 250mg, i understand and it makes sense

have you orderedstuff from a-r before.
i ordered l-dex and nolva, they checked it but still let it through. i want to know if clomid will get through ok

Thank god mate I don't need to order fro noone.

[Kale]

Time Off = Time On + PCT TIME

[parraboy]

try using prop, i found good results from prop and enathate.

[t-gunz]

hey mista massive...probably not legit cause we are from australia haha only joking... give it some more time and keep us posted on how it all goes.... good luck

[Mista Massive]

well it is now week 5.5

STILL NOTHING. this is bullsh*t
it is a legit bladder and everyone knows it.
i've got acne on my shoulders and small balls for nothing.

should i wait longer or just dbols?

[Mista Massive]

^^bump^^

[Mista Massive]

^^bump^^

[t-gunz]

thats no good... by that time now you should be seeing results.... i'd say wait bit longer but 5.5 weeks is a long time already

[frank12391]

I ordered clomid & clen from ar-r and customs opened the pack but still let it through. I'm in Sydney, Mr Massive. It's good to go!

[Mista Massive]

thats no good... by that time now you should be seeing results.... i'd say wait bit longer but 5.5 weeks is a long time already

you think i should start doing some dianabol.

might as well gain something while i'm on test

[Mista Massive]

^^bump^^

[Mista Massive]

^^bump^^

[Mista Massive]

someone, please. i just wanna know if i should start dbol or not

[shrpskn]

I don't necessarily see the need to add dbol at this stage of your cycle...there is no reason why you shouldn't be or shouldn't start to see results from the test E at this stage...be patient and it will come...

If you really feel the need to jump on another compound, then I suppose 30mg/ed of dbol for 4 weeks won't kill you...I've just never seen it ran mid-cycle before.

Good luck,

-ShrpSkn

[Mista Massive]

thanks for the reply

[DutchCowboy]

My guess is that you are not eating enough to gain. That explains everything

[king6]

I have heard of test e taking up to 8 weeks to kick in. It might of not kicked in yet for you, at 5.5 yeah you should see something, but I would not panic yet.