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    Major UGL closing it's doors....

    The British mythical fire-breathing beast's home page says they're closing their doors this month.......this outta put a squeeze on the market, eh?

    I'm sure this will get locked, but this is big news to me.

    Thank goodness for domestics.

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    I doubt it will even effect the market. There is going to be another company opened up under new labeling. Not only tha, but there are so many UGL's out there right now, there business will go up rather than effect the general market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    I doubt it will even effect the market. There is going to be another company opened up under new labeling. Not only tha, but there are so many UGL's out there right now, there business will go up rather than effect the general market.
    Ahhh....well you're a bit further ahead of the 8-ball then me then...

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    I doubt this thread will get closed. Just keep the name out of it and were fine.
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    So many UGL's. This wont even make a dent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    The British mythical fire-breathing beast's home page says they're closing their doors this month.......this outta put a squeeze on the market, eh?

    I'm sure this will get locked, but this is big news to me.

    Thank goodness for domestics.

    -ShrpSkn

    I have a good idea why, I'm sure a few other guys might too

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    Yeah, I was directed to Anthony Robert's blog...it seems he's gone into great detail in explaining the whole lab closure thing and it's correlation with the b.s. going around about the source on this boards supply list...seems he (the source) is going to be taking things over...same products, different name/labeling I'm assuming....don't quote me.

    In the end, it all kind of makes sense if you've been following things...

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    I'd be wary of alot more fakes coming along of this labs' gear as the current supply runs down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    The British mythical fire-breathing beast's home page says they're closing their doors this month.......this outta put a squeeze on the market, eh?

    I'm sure this will get locked, but this is big news to me.

    Thank goodness for domestics.

    -ShrpSkn
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    Bh D has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of B D.

    Thus, no genuine B products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.

    All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).

    Br D would like to thank its loyal supporters.

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    I think it will have an effect on the UGL market.

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    ^^Yep, that's it.

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    I'm thinking a positive effect on the UGL market...and perhaps a negative effect on the current distributers of their products...who knows how long it will be before a heir to their throne will come about.

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    Thanks Shrpskn

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    I doubt it will even effect the market. There is going to be another company opened up under new labeling. Not only tha, but there are so many UGL's out there right now, there business will go up rather than effect the general market.
    Correct. The factory where it has been produced over the past few months (the nice, over-dosed stuff) is going to be producing a new brand. So while technically, it's the same factory, oils, and powders...it's going to be operating with a new Brand name...kind of like when Prince changed his name to that symbol-thingy...

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    hey anthony good to know,since my source almost exclusively carries the defunct companys brand,i hope they pick up the new brand.appreciate it,puts my mind at ease a lil bit

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    hey anthony good to know,since my source almost exclusively carries the defunct companys brand,i hope they pick up the new brand.appreciate it,puts my mind at ease a lil bit
    Most of the sources who carry the old brand will probably carry the new one too. There's only 2 sources who come to mind who will likely be blackballed from carrying the new brand.

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    ^^Well, one that's going to be out of the loop comes to mind real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Most of the sources who carry the old brand will probably carry the new one too. There's only 2 sources who come to mind who will likely be blackballed from carrying the new brand.
    im assuming one of them is the suuplier who mass emailed everyone slinging mud about a week ago

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    ^Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    ^^Well, one that's going to be out of the loop comes to mind real quick.

    hmmm oh yea --that one DUH!

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    im assuming one of them is the suuplier who mass emailed everyone slinging mud about a week ago
    Yes. That e-mail was totally uncalled for, false, and unprofessional. If you check out my blog, I posted the full story, as the founders and owners of the company told it to me.

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    that sucks i believe i know the one you guys r talkin about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Yes. That e-mail was totally uncalled for, false, and unprofessional. If you check out my blog, I posted the full story, as the founders and owners of the company told it to me.

    yah i read that, im defintely done with that supplier who sent out those emails

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    major ugl closing its doors

    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    I'd be wary of alot more fakes coming along of this labs' gear as the current supply runs down.
    There 's already alot of that my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    yah i read that, im defintely done with that supplier who sent out those emails
    Nobody should deal with that supplier at all. They came around a couple of years ago, and tried using the name of one of EF's AAS mods to start their company. In other words, they took someone elses screen name and implied that it was that person running things...then when he asked them to please use another name, or at least make it clear that they were not him, they refused. That was their start in the buisness...pretty shitty if you ask me.

    Then this most recent e-mail, and some other things that they've been doing behind the scenes...they're really a group of people I'd avoid.

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    that piissed me off- i got like 5 of those emails

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    I spoke with Brian on the phone about all of this, as well as one of the Admins and BigGuns101 too....

    I like to give people the heads up on things when I can....again, it's unfortunate that I could only post it in my blog instead of letting the members here get the info ON steroid.com, instead of elsewhere....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I spoke with Brian on the phone about all of this, as well as one of the Admins and BigGuns101 too....

    I like to give people the heads up on things when I can....again, it's unfortunate that I could only post it in my blog instead of letting the members here get the info ON steroid.com, instead of elsewhere....
    thanksfor the heads up on all this info

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    Here is Anthony's Blog for anyone that wants to read it http://www.anthony-roberts.com/blog/

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    I doubt it will even effect the market. There is going to be another company opened up under new labeling. Not only tha, but there are so many UGL's out there right now, there business will go up rather than effect the general market.
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    Hooker, why are you so "pro ali*".. it seems to be just you and Big A who are on ali*s side.. is it not a fact that **** controled the factory and was making real as well as fake/underdosed B*D product??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    Hooker, why are you so "pro ali*".. it seems to be just you and Big A who are on ali*s side.. is it not a fact that **** controled the factory and was making real as well as fake/underdosed B*D product??
    Why would he make fakes.....he has as much as the real deal as he wants and makes tons of money, it doesnt make sense for him to sabotage his own business???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    There 's already alot of that my friend.
    Its funny to, sources are going to say it was stock piled when in fact last bit of production stopped awhile back. China's probably working double time already.

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    quick question 4 the mods- if the fire breathing dragon company is fully liscensed and legal then its not an UGL and y can't we post its name??

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    Just read that email you guys are talking about and wasnt sure what to think at first Cause I have used A*** in the past. Thanks for clear things up for me guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE
    quick question 4 the mods- if the fire breathing dragon company is fully liscensed and legal then its not an UGL and y can't we post its name??
    I guess that is under review, but if they have shut down its a pretty mute point now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    Why would he make fakes.....he has as much as the real deal as he wants and makes tons of money, it doesnt make sense for him to sabotage his own business???
    hmmm lets see, maybe to make 2-3 times more money than hes already making.. it makes sense to me. use less raw hormone, supply to approved B*D reamilers, nobody says a peep cause they came from APPROVED remalilers.. and even if there are complaints (which there have been) it wouldnt make the slightest difference,, but who knows..

    to be honest i could care less.. what i do know its that ali* has been called out as a selective scammer for quite some time now and genx*l is "golden" to thousands of people.. ive never dealt with either, just with approved remailers, and IMO nobody should ever touch ** again with all the great domestic UGL's that are out..

    and how ironic that things turned sour with ali* (factory owner) and the B*D website owners, which in turn allows ali* to push his own line of "human grade product" to bring in millions $$ and leaves the webiste owners with basically whats in their bank account.. .. .. im just a small fry with an opinion here, that is all, only people who know the facts here are a handful of people.. all i know is i wouldnt fack with **** or any ** product..

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    like in everything in life--there are 3 sides to every story..one sides version, the other sides version & then the truth..

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    I used ali* for my first cycle which was test e and eq with a naposim
    kick and I still wonder if that gear wasn't at least underdosed. I'm
    extremely happy with the domestic ugl I found for my second cycle
    and can't imagine dealing with the hassle of overseas gear again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    hmmm lets see, maybe to make 2-3 times more money than hes already making.. it makes sense to me. use less raw hormone, supply to approved B*D reamilers, nobody says a peep cause they came from APPROVED remalilers.. and even if there are complaints (which there have been) it wouldnt make the slightest difference,, but who knows..

    to be honest i could care less.. what i do know its that ali* has been called out as a selective scammer for quite some time now and genx*l is "golden" to thousands of people.. ive never dealt with either, just with approved remailers, and IMO nobody should ever touch ** again with all the great domestic UGL's that are out..

    and how ironic that things turned sour with ali* (factory owner) and the B*D website owners, which in turn allows ali* to push his own line of "human grade product" to bring in millions $$ and leaves the webiste owners with basically whats in their bank account.. .. .. im just a small fry with an opinion here, that is all, only people who know the facts here are a handful of people.. all i know is i wouldnt fack with **** or any ** product..
    On the ** site, where you can check legit distributors.......all that means is they purchase a certain amount of ** products, after that they can scam all they want. At this point there is no ** gear, it was discontued sooner then any of this was even coming close to public. What everybody knows was the last ditch effort to throw the last bit of mud public. I just cant see why he would chance putting out fakes and hurting his own company, as far as underdosed I had my ** gear tested awhile back and was way overdosed. This is way before I even had a clue to who was behind **. Ive never used **** yet, probably wont, I believe a highly reputable UGL (domestic) is the way to go. Build a good relationship and its smooth sailing. Also a public email to all of its customers shitbagging someone makes me question who's behind the ordeal. We'll probably never know, nor do I really care, be old news soon, with a few new company's emerging from the smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    We'll probably never know, nor do I really care, be old news soon, with a few new company's emerging from the smoke.
    i totally agree here.. ** has slowed down quite a bit anyways with all the cheap domestic UG's and soooooo many people homebrewing, even trying to produce there own little labs..lol... and there will be many more labs to come!..

    im just curious to see what the final verdict is with all the **/**** drama.. may take a lil longer to fully be public... If im not mistaken all the legal action that will be taken between ** and **** should already be starting so thatd be fun to read up on also....

    for me its either certain domestic UGL's.. or human grade products distributed by certain sources... im too lazy to homebrew right now but i should be more confident and have more time by 2007-2008.. cant wait... with my luck by then powder sources would be non-exisant.. .. nnnnah doubt that

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