10 wk cycle of Test E and Dbol

[TheAccountant]

I'm currently in my 3rd wk regiment on a 10wk cycle of test E and Dbol. My current goal is bulking. I hope I could put on more 20Ibs from this cycle. Im currently weighing 206Ibs. Please feel free to criticize or advise my cycle regiment as you see fit.

Wk1 thru wk2.....250mg test E (Mon).....250mg test E (Thur)....20mg dbol/ed

Wk3 thru wk4........500mg test E (every mondays)..........50mg dbol/ed

wk5 thru wk 10......500mg test E (every mondays)

I do have 36 tablets of 50mg clomid on hand for PCT which I hope to take them between wk12 thru wk15.

My present backup workout supplements includes creatine, glutiamine, and glucosamine.

I don't rely much on shake protein but my diet is pretty much constitute of redmeat, turkeys, chicken, beans, veggies, bread, potatoes, rice, eggs, milk,oatmeal, fruits and salads.

I'm trying to workout only on MWF but there are weeks that found myself constantly working out daily (I figure that's the only way to get rid of the soreness).

My major target areas during workout are hamstring/thighs that means I don't miss squats and leg press in my workout. My chest and tri-biceps are pretty much in shape --I just feel like avoiding Y-shape by working out my legs to medium size.

Hey..let me know what do you think if fluctuating regiment has a tremendous effect in gains or not?

Stat

DOB 1972; Height 6''2; Weight 206 Ibs; BF 11-12%; Experience: 12yrs on-and-off
Chest?Biceps?Arm?Thighs?Shin

[evil pepsi]

would you only take half a dose? if not, then why train half your body?

with the routine you are following, no offense, but you would be better off training naturally...

[TheAccountant]

half dose? please explain yourself a little farther.

[evil pepsi]

half dose? please explain yourself a little farther.

it was along the lines of 'you wouldnt waste your time with half a dose, so why waste your time with half-ass training?'

steroids alone will not do the trick. it takes sound training and nutrition. in my opinion, you may not be ready...

[SMAN12b]

Test E needs to be shot TWICE a week not once. as stated by E Pepsi, why bother with steroids if you are not going to be working out correctly??

you will end up wasting your AAS and money,

[TheAccountant]

LOL ... you guys are overjudging my commitment and progress than trying to direct and motivate, perhaps I should pose some before and after pics to entice both of you but never mind that's not I'm here for. please checkk my workout journal at http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=277048

[evil pepsi]

overjudging? so are you saying we are giving you too much credit?
a cycle takes complete dedication. you either give it your all, or you dont bother. half-ass training=half-ass gains...

[TheAccountant]

Dedication!!! I agree it takes a commitment & dedication to make successful progress but the question is where is your dedication on this board that we haven't seen it yet? what cycle are you on, where is your training log for one to weight in your few post opinion... BTW, Rome was not built on first cycle

overjudging? so are you saying we are giving you too much credit?
a cycle takes complete dedication. you either give it your all, or you dont bother. half-ass training=half-ass gains...

[evil pepsi]

you are calling me out? hahahaha, thats pretty funny. learn more about gear/training before you do that.
you ask for opinions, yet when people give you one, you get offended and lash out. dont be surprised if people just start ignoring your posts because of this...

[GHO5T]

As far as your cycle goes, the only i would recommend would be as sman stated to administer the Test E on a consistent basis (mon & thurs) throughout the whole cycle. and to take a consistent dose of dbol throughout the whole cycle as well as this will keep your blood levels more stable and lessen your chances of side effects that can occur with the specific aas you are using.

As far as your training goes, sure you train less than a few bros on here, but i dont see that as a problem. IMO if you see better gains from training MWF than by all means stick to it, why change anything. As long as your keeping those training sessions intense and constantly upping the weights and making progress each session theres nothing wrong with it.

[TheAccountant]

As long as your keeping those training sessions intense and constantly upping the weights and making progress each session theres nothing wrong with it.

I have realize and seen most fellows who continues to up their weights beyond their capacity and strength instead end up having serious joint injuries. I would rather stick to 3 sets of 120Ibs at 12 reps than 2 sets of 240 Ibs at 5 reps. My exercise session is about endurance not bodybuilding strength!!!

[GHO5T]

I have realize and seen most fellows who continues to up their weights beyond their capacity and strength instead end up having serious joint injuries. I would rather stick to 3 sets of 120Ibs at 12 reps than 2 sets of 240 Ibs at 5 reps. My exercise session is about endurance not bodybuilding strength!!!

Understadable, but you have to think about this one bro. How can your muscles grow if you are not constantly pushing them to perform heavier more intense lifts. How can they grow if your not pushing them?

Your body and muscles get used to things very fast, if you arent pushing or challenging them how do you expect to grow?

As you stated in the highlighted text above, most of these bros arent doing the specific lifts properly and this of course will lead to injury.

[Mazzive_T]

bro if u wanna be putting on 20lbs like u said from your cycle you need to be doing 8-10 reps for each set. Pick a weight that you can do 8 reps of, no more, no less. When it gets so you can do 10 reps, and the first 8 were easy, then reconsider what you are lifting.

Im no-one to say anything in this forum but training for 2 years first before using steroids, don't you think getting your training and diet sorted first is more important then what your on?
Theres plenty of people who want to help you here - try looking in the training forums for advice, theres plenty or programmes to suit your needs there.

[TheAccountant]

Understadable, but you have to think about this one bro. How can your muscles grow if you are not constantly pushing them to perform heavier more intense lifts. How can they grow if your not pushing them?

Your body and muscles get used to things very fast, if you arent pushing or challenging them how do you expect to grow?

As you stated in the highlighted text above, most of these bros arent doing the specific lifts properly and this of course will lead to injury.

Are u one of those "Know it all"???
Are u assuming I can't tell if someone's lifting techniques are inappropriate or not?
Well I;m not about to pull an argument with u here over semantic of english language but just out of curiosity please know that endurance and intense lifting is quite synanemous.. but anyway have good new yrs eve!!!

[GHO5T]

Are u one of those "Know it all"???
Are u assuming I can't tell if someone's lifting techniques are inappropriate or not?
Well I;m not about to pull an argument with u here over semantic of english language but just out of curiosity please know that endurance and intense lifting is quite synanemous.. but anyway have good new yrs eve!!!

Your telling me that those two types of training techniques are the same/or similar ?? If thats your mindset about lifting and training than you have alot to learn bro... (BTW you spelled it wrong )

but anyways bro, im just giving you advice, and only suggesting giving you things to consider that will benefit you. Thats why were all hear to learn from one another.

But best of luck to you bro

[TheAccountant]

No disrepect "mr know it all" but i think u apparently need more advise with that kind of understanding if u can't tell the similarities between endurance and intense workout. sorry bro, keep that kind of advise to your ownself

Your telling me that those two types of training techniques are the same/or similar ?? If thats your mindset about lifting and training than you have alot to learn bro... (BTW you spelled it wrong )

but anyways bro, im just giving you advice, and only suggesting giving you things to consider that will benefit you. Thats why were all hear to learn from one another.

But best of luck to you bro

[SS1476]

For an accountant..your being very
argumentative when advice is given.


If my accountant had an attitude
like this,he would be fired instantly!


Your too kind GHO5T..Some have
their answers before they ever post.

[SS1476]

No disrepect "mr know it all" but i think u apparently need more advise with that kind of understanding if u can't tell the similarities between endurance and intense workout. sorry bro, keep that kind of advise to your ownself

Why be a D!ck...You have issues tonight I see.
Good luck with that,happy new year accountant

[SS1476]

Same attitude since joining...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=277029

Some people are so easy to read.Im done here.

[TheAccountant]

for someone to ride a motor bike butt naked
I suppose that's not attitude...LOL

In my county someone riding a bike butt naked
he/or she will be pull over by our local sheriff instantly
for obscenity in public.

If that butt naked bike rider is our coworker
He/she will be fired for infringing with the firms' employee
character of conduct or goodwill...LOL

For an accountant..your being very
argumentative when advice is given.


If my accountant had an attitude
like this,he would be fired instantly!


Your too kind GHO5T..Some have
their answers before they ever post.

[Mista Massive]

why are you taking steroids?

if it is part of a training regime to get BIGGER, then you need to train accordingly. hence the low volume high intensity training. we are bodybuilders. that is the act by which we train to BUILD our BODIES BIGGER. you can do all the high volume, low intensity, lactic acid building training you want. but i promise you, if i saw you training like that in the gym, i wouldn't even acknowledge your existance. how dare you impose your INCORRECT beliefs about weight training to the guys who live and breathe it. Ghost should have let you have it but he refrained. maybe he is not as insulted by ignorant people who give the REAL sport of BODYBUILDING a bad name.

you embarass us. Bodybuilding is my life. no, we don't "know it all". but we know a F*CK LOAD MORE THAN YOU. we will spend the rest of our lives trying to understand every aspect that bodybuilding accompanies.

one more thing

[king6]

My exercise session is about endurance not bodybuilding strength!!!

So then why are you doing steroids?

[TheAccountant]

So then why are you doing steroids?

Good question: I plan to do three to four cycles only. That is it.

[TheAccountant]

one more thing

Guys like u need to be suspended/or banned for not knowing to engage in rational rhetoric.

Take Care!

[Mista Massive]

Good question: I plan to do three to four cycles only. That is it.

and what do you believ these cycles would accomplish being that you seriously won't gain any muscle.

maybe you just wanna increase the RBC so you look flushed, cos then those cycles may do it.

you do realise that with your terrible training regime you won't keep a bit of it. well i suppose you might keep half of nothing

[king6]

If your goal this cycle is to put on 20lbs of muscle, then you need to train your body evenly. You can put extra effort into your leg workouts, but you still need to train the other groups. Have you ever seen the really big guys at the gym that just do upper body and no leg work, they look kind of funny, like an orange with 2 tooth picks in it. Same goes with legs, if you have big legs and no upper body mass, you will look unproportioned.

[Mista Massive]

Guys like u need to be suspended/or banned for not knowing to engage in rational rhetoric.

Take Care!

guys like you shouldn't be allowed to join.

you know nothing about training let alone gear. you are a severe waste of time and should consider a career in being a mommy.

[TheAccountant]

i suppose you might keep half of nothing

You could wish me all the bad luck you want, but I will still rise to reach to my goals.

I'm thru with u now.....God Bless!

[Mista Massive]

i'm through with you know

get F*CKED

[king6]

Well this was productive.

[Mista Massive]

Well this was productive.

yes, very

[alltherage]

Good question: I plan to do three to four cycles only. That is it.

That's what EVERYBODY SAYS..... Do a cycle and in 6 months you'll be lucky if you've kept ten pounds of it. Once you do a cycle you can easily put on 20 pounds, but keeping 20 pounds probably won't happen. I put on 20 pounds my first cycle and after 6 months I'd kept maybe 5 pounds, it takes time to build muscle and juice will help you temporarily but when it comes down to it only time will give you quality gains. I don't even understand why half the people here ask questions it's the same shit over and over and over and over. This board is just an excuse to sell arr products and juice in my opinion, every freaking question has been answered ten freaking times if you actually look....

[alltherage]

why are you taking steroids?

if it is part of a training regime to get BIGGER, then you need to train accordingly. hence the low volume high intensity training. we are bodybuilders. that is the act by which we train to BUILD our BODIES BIGGER. you can do all the high volume, low intensity, lactic acid building training you want. but i promise you, if i saw you training like that in the gym, i wouldn't even acknowledge your existance. how dare you impose your INCORRECT beliefs about weight training to the guys who live and breathe it. Ghost should have let you have it but he refrained. maybe he is not as insulted by ignorant people who give the REAL sport of BODYBUILDING a bad name.

you embarass us. Bodybuilding is my life. no, we don't "know it all". but we know a F*CK LOAD MORE THAN YOU. we will spend the rest of our lives trying to understand every aspect that bodybuilding accompanies.

one more thing

The "sport" of bodybuilding is a ****ing joke. It used to be a sport until Shwortznigger came here blown up to shit. Now bodybuilding is a freakshow, you american idiots get so blown up with juice that you can't possibly keep the size you get without using steroids, then you get the little man complex and do so much juice that your dead at 40. I think real bodybuilders don't use juice because they know that in the end it's not worth it, or at least the amount most people do. Moderate amounts are fine maybe twice a year, but professional bodybuilding is bullshit, they get plastic surgery to have "perfect" muscles. I think Adolf Hitler and the Aryan race philosophy applies to american bodybuilding, the europeans at least don't rely on test to get so bloated and blown up so they're a big fat piece of shit when they aren't on the juice. Then synthol.......Yeah Vince Mcmahon, there's a good example of a "naturally" gifted bodybuilder

[alltherage]

for someone to ride a motor bike butt naked
I suppose that's not attitude...LOL

In my county someone riding a bike butt naked
he/or she will be pull over by our local sheriff instantly
for obscenity in public.

If that butt naked bike rider is our coworker
He/she will be fired for infringing with the firms' employee
character of conduct or goodwill...LOL

Do you live in a land where the cops are faggots?? Oh yeah, you live in a "county"..... I think most places the cop would pull a girl over and compliment her g-string showing nicely, after all her pussy is covered and only a deluded queer would complain about a seeing a chicks ass in public. There's nobody butt naked either. I think this is a bit "brokeback"

[alltherage]

Same attitude since joining...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=277029

Some people are so easy to read.Im done here.

Yup, classic fag.....

[evil pepsi]

Are u one of those "Know it all"???
Are u assuming I can't tell if someone's lifting techniques are inappropriate or not?
Well I;m not about to pull an argument with u here over semantic of english language but just out of curiosity please know that endurance and intense lifting is quite synanemous.. but anyway have good new yrs eve!!!

dude, just take your ball and go home. we dont want to play anymore...

[king6]

I think Adolf Hitler and the Aryan race philosophy applies to american bodybuilding

Your not actually serious are you?

[abstrack]

Guys. Cut the shit and act accordingly. If you cant handle discussing topics/threads like adults, then there will be some suspensions handed out.

[abstrack]

The "sport" of bodybuilding is a ****ing joke. It used to be a sport until Shwortznigger came here blown up to shit. Now bodybuilding is a freakshow, you american idiots get so blown up with juice that you can't possibly keep the size you get without using steroids, then you get the little man complex and do so much juice that your dead at 40. I think real bodybuilders don't use juice because they know that in the end it's not worth it, or at least the amount most people do. Moderate amounts are fine maybe twice a year, but professional bodybuilding is bullshit, they get plastic surgery to have "perfect" muscles. I think Adolf Hitler and the Aryan race philosophy applies to american bodybuilding, the europeans at least don't rely on test to get so bloated and blown up so they're a big fat piece of shit when they aren't on the juice. Then synthol.......Yeah Vince Mcmahon, there's a good example of a "naturally" gifted bodybuilder

Have you ever looked at the top competitors and where they are from? Their not all from America my friend.



BTW.. This has nothing to do with the thread topic, so lets keep to it.

[evil pepsi]

how about just locking this thread, or killing it altogether? its a clear waste of space now, and nothing informative has come of it. its simply become a forum for two people to spew banter...