first cycle to now

[chump1976]

wot do think lads.im a true ecto

[l2elapse]

so you have cycled?

[crash187ct]

i think you need to try eating.

[chump1976]

so you have cycled?

yes m8 ive dun 3 cycles.i eat loads but its slow going on

[Andorious]

did you start using the fisrt day you stepped foot in a gym? if the first pic is what you looked like when you started your first cycle then it really doesnt look like you knew what you were doing. what's your weight in the two pictures?

[SnaX]

I'll acknowledge your spirit for wanting to get bigger and stronger..

You're going to get a lot of replies saying that you should have waiting/weren't ready for gear/ need to do more reading on diet&exercise/ etc..... And all those replies are going to be correct.
Don't be upset when you read them, as they are all comments that ARE in your BEST interest healthwise. I know you'll understand what I am saying here.

Before any more cycles, do what you can naturally as your goals are %100 obtainable with weightlifting/proper exercise/ and no AAS.

These aren't slams, just words of advice. Take care bro, and keep lifting hard (without the gear)

And if you want, keep a log of natural weightlifting, and post it up, and we can critique your progress naturally, and see how we can help you improve you training.

[chump1976]

did you start using the fisrt day you stepped foot in a gym? if the first pic is what you looked like when you started your first cycle then it really doesnt look like you knew what you were doing. what's your weight in the two pictures?

to be honest yes .and first pic i was 10st second and now 12.4st and 3 wks off cycle.14mths diff in the pics

[JohnboyF]

I dont think you eat loads.. you may eat loads of crap but not real foods.

Post your current diet up bro

[italianplayboy09]

you have done 3 cycles already!? w/e i have to say is already summed up by snax

[Timm1704]

well, although i agree that you could have likely done that naturally, you do look much improved in the second pic

[italianplayboy09]

well, although i agree that you could have likely done that naturally, you do look much improved in the second pic

i wouldnt think so...thats after 3 cycles

[Haro3]

man diet diet diet. i doubt u eat 2500 cals u look almost sickly in the second pic. seriously no flame but man u dont need gear u need food.

[Andorious]

to be honest yes .and first pic i was 10st second and now 12.4st and 3 wks off cycle.14mths diff in the pics

ok well you have put on some size i'll give you that, but seriously post your diet. I doubt your eating as much as you think you are. can you provide us more info on your cycles as well

[Maldorf]

I have to agree with everyone here. You need some help with diet first, forget using the AAS anymore for now because you dont need them at all. If you want to have a long life in bodybuilding and continue to grow over the years you dont want to start depending on AAS to grow right now, youll only end up needing higher doses in the future.
Since youre a true ecto and have a fast metabolism you can take in a lot of calories and not put on much fat. When I was in high school and first started training at age 16 I was 6 foot and weighed only 140 lbs. By the time I graduated at age 18 I weighed 185 pounds at the same height, and this was all natural. I ate all I could, took in meg calories through those weight gainer shakes that were so popular in the 80s here in the US. It was weight gainer 2000, and I think each shake might have been 2k cals. I took in at least 2 of those shakes each day in addition to eating mass quantities of food.

[thetank]

substitute gear for more food. if i jumped in your skin for a month i would gain 10 lbs naturally i gaurentee. eat, thats it, its that simple, no science, no steroids, food, eat more of it. you eat 3000 cals a day and arent gaining, eat 4000...still not gaining? 5000..no? 6000...its that easy man. whats done is done, and youve made gains im not gonna deny, but youve wasted receptors that could have made you huge after a year of solid natural training and eating. youve put on size, now keep it with food, cause if you keep cycling like you have been, you'll be on year round just to keep 170 lbs on your frame.