Couldnt get help in PCT forum so i posted this here...

[moush]

here is what my next cycle is going to look like:

wk 1-13 Test E @ 750mg
wk 1-12 Tren E @ 500mg
wk 1-12 Masteron E @ 400mg
wk 5-15 Anavar @ 60-80mg ED
Nolvadex throughout whole cycle @ 10-15 mg ED

PCT:

wk 13 (right after last shot)-wk 20 Nolvadex @ 20-30 mg ED
wk 15-20 Proviron @ 50mg ED
wk 15-20 Aromasin @ 25 mg ED
clen 2 wks on 2 wks off

My questions are:

1) Should I run proviron throughout the whole cycle @ 25 mg ED and during PCT increase it 50mg ED?
2) If i dont need to run proviron the whole cycle should I run it weeks 6-7 @ 25 mg ED?
3) hows the dosage and length of time to run Aromasin? should I increase it? if so to what?
4) running nolvadex right after the last shot...is this correct? i read that in one y questions aref the stickies on here but I wanted to make sure it was the correct way to run it?

[Swifto]

here is what my next cycle is going to look like:

wk 1-13 Test E @ 750mg
wk 1-12 Tren E @ 500mg
wk 1-12 Masteron E @ 400mg
wk 5-15 Anavar @ 60-80mg ED
Nolvadex throughout whole cycle @ 10-15 mg ED

PCT:

wk 13 (right after last shot)-wk 20 Nolvadex @ 20-30 mg ED
wk 15-20 Proviron @ 50mg ED
wk 15-20 Aromasin @ 25 mg ED
clen 2 wks on 2 wks off

My questions are:

1) Should I run proviron throughout the whole cycle @ 25 mg ED and during PCT increase it 50mg ED?

Proviron is good, but not that good at reducing/preventing estrogenic side effects. Well....For me anyhow. You could use it when "on", its upto you. But, I'd be inclined to use Letro as your using a 19-Nor, or powerful AI, like Aromasin.

Just a thought, Nolva and 19-Nor's dont go well together. Nolva has often amplified sides that progestins may bring.

2) If i dont need to run proviron the whole cycle should I run it weeks 6-7 @ 25 mg ED?

I'd use it beginning at week 5-6 to reduce SHBG, but thats just me.

3) hows the dosage and length of time to run Aromasin? should I increase it? if so to what?

If you dong use Letro when "on", then use Aromasin. Start on 12.5mg/ED and see how you go. IMO, keep some Letro on hand. Just incase things go wrong with the estrogenic/progestenic sides. Also keep some Caber on hand.

4) running nolvadex right after the last shot...is this correct? i read that in one y questions aref the stickies on here but I wanted to make sure it was the correct way to run it?

I wouldnt run Nolva and a 19-Nor, for reasons above.

BOLDS

Proviron at 50mg/ED for PCT too.


Another thought, why not HCG to maintain testicular size?

I'd also drop off the Tren 4-5 weeks proir to PCT beginning and drop the Testosetrone 2-3 weeks before PCT starts. Only running Masteron and Var. Or continue with the Var for 4-5 weeks alone, after stopping all other compounds. I've seen user's state PCT is easier like this.

[moush]

swifto - I should run aromasin during cycle and PCT? what dosage do i run the aromasin? if i ran letro and aromasin how would i go about doing so?

so heres what you are recommending, just want to see if i have this correct:

wk 5-15 (up to day of PCT) Var
wk 1-13 Test E
wk 1-9 Tren E
wk 1-15 Masteron E
wk 5-6 Proviron @ 25 mg ED

also there is no need for nolva correct? i wont need clomid because I will use aromasin right? i have some caber but ill pick some more up...is there anything else i need for PCT?

as for HCG - that needs to be kept in the fridge and I wont be able to because I live at home...if i could i would...how would i run it if i could use it?


PCT: HOW LONG SHOULD PCT BE? 4-6 weeks depending on how I recover?
Aromasin - @ what dosage?
Proviron @ 50mg ED
Letro - @ what dosage?

[moush]

hows this look for PCT:

Letro: 3 weeks @ .25 or .5mg ed
Aromasin: 3-4 weeks @ 20-25mg ed
Proviron: 50mg ED
Clomid: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks.

I got the proviron down as far as during cycle which I will run wks 5-6...now what else should I run during cycle for gyno, water retention, etc

[Swifto]

swifto - I should run aromasin during cycle and PCT? Yes. Run it at 12.5mg/ED when "on" with some Caber. Then bump to 25mg/ED for PCT. what dosage do i run the aromasin? if i ran letro and aromasin how would i go about doing so? Keep Letro on hand. I dont forsee you needing it with an AI/Caber. But just in case.
so heres what you are recommending, just want to see if i have this correct:

wk 1-12 Test Enan
wk 1-10 Tren E
wk 1-5 Oral?
wk 1-8 Masteron
wk 10-16 Var

BW is essential at week 4-5 and week 12-13. Then see how you are goin IMO.

also there is no need for nolva correct? I wouldnt run it with a 19-Nor, no. i wont need clomid because I will use aromasin right? i have some caber but ill pick some more up...is there anything else i need for PCT? HCG, Aromasin, Nolva, Proviron is what I use.

as for HCG - that needs to be kept in the fridge and I wont be able to because I live at home...if i could i would...how would i run it if i could use it? For PCT at 125-500ius/ED for 3 weeks (weekdays only). Or, 125-500 2-3 times weekly when "on".

PCT: HOW LONG SHOULD PCT BE? 4-6 weeks depending on how I recover?
Aromasin - @ what dosage?
Proviron @ 50mg ED
Letro - @ what dosage?

wk 1-3 HCG 125-500ius/ED (weekdays only)
wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-? Aromasin 25mg/ED
wk 1-? Proviron 25-50mg/ED

BW done 5-6 weeks after all PCT compounds are stopped.

BOLDS

[moush]

i got this info from:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=255196

[moush]

excellent...oh i see you hae oral with a ? ....why dont i run the var for 10 wks or so like more threads on here are saying? instead of running it for 2 6 wk "cycles"

[Swifto]

excellent...oh i see you hae oral with a ? ....why dont i run the var for 10 wks or so like more threads on here are saying? instead of running it for 2 6 wk "cycles"

By all means run it as long as you want, but you MUST get BW done.

I used Tbol last cycle for about 11 weeks and my liver values were fine, though VERY slightly higher than previous levels. And...I consumed alcohol on my cycle. Not good!

Run it from the start if you want...

[moush]

ok gotcha...now as far as the masteron e goes...8 weeks is enough?

you posted: I'd also drop off the Tren 4-5 weeks proir to PCT beginning and drop the Testosetrone 2-3 weeks before PCT starts. Only running Masteron and Var. Or continue with the Var for 4-5 weeks alone, after stopping all other compounds. I've seen user's state PCT is easier like this.


i tried to set up the cycle in that way but i guess i did it wrong....the way you posted the cycle above is the best way to run it? i am just askin as I am trying to learn and get it all straightened out before anything and I appreciate the help BTW

[moush]

i also noticed that i dont start PCT until 4 weeks after my last test e shot while still running var ED...i then start PCT the day after the last tab/cap?

[Swifto]

i also noticed that i dont start PCT until 4 weeks after my last test e shot while still running var ED...i then start PCT the day after the last tab/cap?

Correct. Run the Var alone 4-5 weeks after the final Test Enan shot. You may need some Proviron for labido at 25-50mg/ED.

Run the Masteron when you want. Just run Var alone before starting PCT. It should help with recovery.

[moush]

ok and only run the masteron for 8 weeks...no more right? you do know that I am running the enanthate ester of masteron (just checking).

[Swifto]

ok and only run the masteron for 8 weeks...no more right? you do know that I am running the enanthate ester of masteron (just checking).

Ah....No I didnt. Thought it was the shorter ester. Change of plan. I havent used Masterone, but I have the Enanthate ester in Test Enan. I ran it for 14 weeks and got the most from it between week 6-12.

Ok.

wk 1-14 Test Enan
wk 1-10 Tren E
wk 4-14 Masteron E
wk 1-16 Var (BW done when I said before)

[moush]

sweet bro...I am so siked i finally got the answers I needed! Thank you Swifto! You def know your stuff and I learned a lot about PCT and setting up a good safe cycle with new compounds.

I have a much better understanding of BW and proper PCT. Thanks to all who helped out...I love AR!!!

[Swifto]

sweet bro...I am so siked i finally got the answers I needed! Thank you Swifto! You def know your stuff and I learned a lot about PCT and setting up a good safe cycle with new compounds.

I have a much better understanding of BW and proper PCT. Thanks to all who helped out...I love AR!!!

Thats ok. PM me if you have any more problems.

[moush]

ok i def will...