Begginner Questions

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 04:48 PM

Whats up fellas im 19, 6''1' and 146lbs..ive been working out pretty damn hard for the past year, coming from 135 of jack $hit, using proteins, gakik, and other supplements. I probably have noticed under 10 lbs of muscle gains. I know plenty of people my age using AAS and I really want to use them..regardless of my age. (Im 6"1' so im not worried about capping my growth) So what do you reccomend to start off with?? Don't care about injections or orals. Im not planning on being on them for more than a couple cycles, i just want a solid muscle gain so i can continue working out but I want to see some quick results. Please don't try to tell me im too young or too inexperienced..I really don't care anymore, im determined to use them, i just want some advice on which ones would be best for my situation. Preciate it in advance.

**fLgAtOr** · 01-23-2007, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Whats up fellas im 19, 6''1' and 146lbs..ive been working out pretty damn hard for the past year, coming from 135 of jack $hit, using proteins, gakik, and other supplements. I probably have noticed under 10 lbs of muscle gains. I know plenty of people my age using AAS and I really want to use them..regardless of my age. (Im 6"1' so im not worried about capping my growth) So what do you reccomend to start off with?? Don't care about injections or orals. Im not planning on being on them for more than a couple cycles, i just want a solid muscle gain so i can continue working out but I want to see some quick results. Please don't try to tell me im too young or too inexperienced..I really don't care anymore, im determined to use them, i just want some advice on which ones would be best for my situation. Preciate it in advance.

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Bro, you know what the answer is.
(1) You're too young. Why do I say this...Because you really are TOO YOUNG. Its not about stunting your height...Its about permanently damaging your own hormonal system. Its still developing and to be honest, you have a shit load of natural test floating around
(2) I know you can gain more weight...You seem to forget that some of us were 6'3", 160 lbs at one point. You're acting like we wouldn't understand. Trust me...Post your diet and I will prove it to you.

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 05:11 PM

But even just a few cycles can really mess up my sytem?? How bad of damage can it honestly do??(Not a retorical question) I mean I've got plenty of buddies usin em. I dont have a structured diet..i just try to eat as healthy as I can w/o forgeting meats and such.. On average im eating a normal egg, bacon, grits breakfast// chicken, steak, or fish for lunch and dinner, throwing some salads and starches in there.. i take mulit-v's, plenty of protein, i just dont see the results..

**GHO5T** · 01-23-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

But even just a few cycles can really mess up my sytem?? How bad of damage can it honestly do??(Not a retorical question) I mean I've got plenty of buddies usin em. I dont have a structured diet..i just try to eat as healthy as I can w/o forgeting meats and such.. On average im eating a normal egg, bacon, grits breakfast// chicken, steak, or fish for lunch and dinner, throwing some salads and starches in there.. i take mulit-v's, plenty of protein, i just dont see the results..

You dont have a structured diet and yet you want to venture in AAS use, not a good idea. Also considering your age and stats, AAS is the last thing you want to be thinking about.

Your diet and training are the determining factors in how much you gain, naturally or when using AAS. So IMO it would be in your best interest to look at these two aspects to a higher degree, and make the necessary changes to spurt growth.

Take this time to research and educate yourself on as many aspects of BB as possbile, AAS use, proper cycling, proper diet, and proper training. Stay natural for a couple years, and continue your research and in time you will have a more profound knowledge of AAS, and then you will be ready to run a proper cycle.

**Megaherz** · 01-23-2007, 05:21 PM

IMHO you have a loooooonnnnnggg way to go before you should even
consider juice at all. I'm 6'2" and didn't start cycling until I was 220lbs.
What you really need to do is eat, eat, eat, eat!!!!!!!!

**kaberle_15** · 01-23-2007, 05:26 PM

If you can't gain weight naturally then AAS wont help you, get the idea out of you're head! With those stats nobody in their right mind would EVER recommend you to use steroids.

**Kale** · 01-23-2007, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Whats up fellas im 19, 6''1' and 146lbs..ive been working out pretty damn hard for the past year, coming from 135 of jack $hit, using proteins, gakik, and other supplements. I probably have noticed under 10 lbs of muscle gains. I know plenty of people my age using AAS and I really want to use them..regardless of my age. (Im 6"1' so im not worried about capping my growth) So what do you reccomend to start off with?? Don't care about injections or orals. Im not planning on being on them for more than a couple cycles, i just want a solid muscle gain so i can continue working out but I want to see some quick results. Please don't try to tell me im too young or too inexperienced..I really don't care anymore, im determined to use them, i just want some advice on which ones would be best for my situation. Preciate it in advance.

None !!!!

**fLgAtOr** · 01-23-2007, 05:32 PM

Post your FULL diet. What'd you eat today?

9am
2 eggs
1 peice of bacon
2 vaginas

12pm
Etc etc.

I guarantee we can put weight on you!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-23-2007, 05:33 PM

Ill make you a deal. Post your diet and training. If i look at them and they are 100% spot on ill give you some good advice on AS cycle. If you post a load of crap ill give you advice on diet and training. Hows that sound?

**toyo92** · 01-23-2007, 05:33 PM

you could prob eat and diet right up to 185 by summer.....whats your situation like; college, home, elsewhere....cause you prob have it easier than most people on here.

lose the expensive supps too....protein, creatine, multi-v and bcaa's are all you really need to start.

**longhorn814** · 01-23-2007, 05:34 PM

Read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

This is how you MUST eat to grow naturally or taking steroids! I guarantee your not gaining any muscle b/c youre not eating like suggested here!! Your way too young and nobody just does a "couple" of cycles...you know how many times ive heard that and then its ten cycles later. You need to finish maturing and work on growing naturally. Its amazing the kind of gains you can get just by working on your diet and eating correctly..Im not even get into the possible problems that you put yourself at risk for my taking steroids at your age and weight!!

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Post your FULL diet. What'd you eat today?

9am
2 eggs
1 peice of bacon
2 vaginas

12pm
Etc etc.

I guarantee we can put weight on you!

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

**plzr8** · 01-23-2007, 05:37 PM

you cant say and admit "i dont have a structured diet" and then plee a case why you want to use steroids.

several of years of training and knowledge before anything else

**Snrf** · 01-23-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

Dude I've eaten that much by 9 am!!!

**Jiesel** · 01-23-2007, 05:39 PM

the trend of newbies asking for advice on aas in almost every post without searching is becoming aparent in my less then one month as a member and 3 months total lurking, I dunno how the vets and mods cope, especially with all that test in their system...

Search! Thats fine If your not gonna follow the guidelines set forth, most probably dont, hell probably 80% or more, but If people are determined to use without anyone elses regard why did you come to ask for help or advice in the first place? You can get all the knowledge you need by searching and no one will be able to give you shyt cause they wont know ur using.....

I'm not for every single rule in the book on using myself but Im not going to blatently disrepect the long time members of the forum who are knowledgable and trying to help on the topic....

**Snrf** · 01-23-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

quit eating "vagine" for breakfast, thats a prebreakfast/latenight snack.

and eat like it shows in this thread. bet you gain 30lbs by the end of the year

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-23-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

you lose the bet, that diet is so far from being 100% its on another planet. My mum eats more than that. Check the "things to consider" FAQ in my sig. It has some info on working out a good diet.
If you cannnot be bothered to sort that diet then you are in the wrong sport. Forget AS for now and think about it again when you have been lifting and eating properly for a couple of years.

**plzr8** · 01-23-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

eggs, bacon, and one vagina...sounds like a great breakfast

BG · 01-23-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jiesel

the trend of newbies asking for advice on aas in almost every post without searching is becoming aparent in my less then one month as a member and 3 months total lurking, I dunno how the vets and mods cope, especially with all that test in their system...

Search! Thats fine If your not gonna follow the guidelines set forth, most probably dont, hell probably 80% or more, but If people are determined to use without anyone elses regard why did you come to ask for help or advice in the first place? You can get all the knowledge you need by searching and no one will be able to give you shyt cause they wont know ur using.....

I'm not for every single rule in the book on using myself but Im not going to blatently disrepect the long time members of the forum who are knowledgable and trying to help on the topic....

Thats why alot of vet/mods arent around anymore, 1 more just said he's done with this anabolic forum.

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 05:46 PM

Alright jerks thanks for totally turning me off of AAS..im gonna go beat up a tysons chicken guy and steal his truck.

**Fordfan01** · 01-23-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

Thats prob barely over 2000 cals/day! bro u need to b eating about 6 to 8 meals a day and getting 3000-4000 cals. Check out the diet forum. I thought my diet was in check but then i went to the diet forum and really got my diet in check and in one month ive put on about 10 lbs or so. u can put on 10 or 15 lbs with food only in the same amount of time as ur cycle. Not trying to flame just trying to help out

**longhorn814** · 01-23-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

6:45
2 eggs, 2 bacon, grits, protein shake, and only ONE vagine

10:30
Grilled chicken sandwich, mashed taters

3:00ish
2 lowfat yogurts

6:00
grilled salmon, more taters, bread

yes youre diet sucks..taking steroids with that diet at any age will not give you any results..steroids arent a crutch or a magic pill, you should only consider them after many years of training and working on your diet

**Jiesel** · 01-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Thats why alot of vet/mods arent around anymore, 1 more just said he's done with this anabolic forum.

thats ashame, those are the folks that are needed the most to keep the forum sane...

**longhorn814** · 01-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Alright jerks thanks for totally turning me off of AAS..im gonna go beat up a tysons chicken guy and steal his truck.

why you calling us jerks? No one on here was rude or disrespectful. That just goes to show us your age and that youre not mature enough for steroids! We all gave you solid educational advice that you should really consider

**Fordfan01** · 01-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Alright jerks thanks for totally turning me off of AAS..im gonna go beat up a tysons chicken guy and steal his truck.

That kinda attitude will turn neone off from giving u help

**mkrulic** · 01-23-2007, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

But even just a few cycles can really mess up my sytem?? How bad of damage can it honestly do??(Not a retorical question) I mean I've got plenty of buddies usin em. I dont have a structured diet..i just try to eat as healthy as I can w/o forgeting meats and such.. On average im eating a normal egg, bacon, grits breakfast// chicken, steak, or fish for lunch and dinner, throwing some salads and starches in there.. i take mulit-v's, plenty of protein, i just dont see the results..

screwing w/ your hormones can have a number of negative consequences. best of luck

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 05:55 PM

Haha sorry guys i was just kidding..i guess i should have put an emote in there..no offense intended..on a real note, thanks for the help

**Snrf** · 01-23-2007, 05:58 PM

Seriously man if you ate like that diet in the link we gave you you'd grow just as fast as you would on juice right now. 146lbs at 6'1 is a beanpole...you're underweight so you'd grow like a weed

**kaberle_15** · 01-23-2007, 06:04 PM

You are just like my cousin, 6'2 and like 135 pounds and also enjoys the bowl of air diet, we gotta make sure hes not standing sideways in pictures or else he disappears

**dipset54** · 01-23-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by kaberle_15

You are just like my cousin, 6'2 and like 135 pounds and also enjoys the bowl of air diet, we gotta make sure hes not standing sideways in pictures or else he disappears

Hahaha..good shit...well i was planning to change the diet once i got real serious..my old diet was pretty strict..up to about 3-3.5k calories but im just gonna bulk on food and supplements for a while and see how it goes..thanks for all the help

**fLgAtOr** · 01-23-2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Haha sorry guys i was just kidding..i guess i should have put an emote in there..no offense intended..on a real note, thanks for the help

Don't worry bro, I laughed.

If you can hang with eating vagina, I can hang with stealing a Tyson's Chicken truck.

If you want, post your diet over in the diet forum...I'll head over there and take a look.

**Coop77** · 01-23-2007, 08:53 PM

I was really skinny as a teen too, but beefed up a lot in my 20s naturally. Your metabolism will slow down in a few years and you'll gain whether you're trying or not.

***Narkissos*** · 01-23-2007, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Alright jerks thanks for totally turning me off of AAS..im gonna go beat up a tysons chicken guy and steal his truck.

This is the best post i've seen on the forum all day!

Welcome aboard bro

**Kale** · 01-24-2007, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Thats why alot of vet/mods arent around anymore, 1 more just said he's done with this anabolic forum.

Who ?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 01-24-2007, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Hahaha..good shit...well i was planning to change the diet once i got real serious..my old diet was pretty strict..up to about 3-3.5k calories but im just gonna bulk on food and supplements for a while and see how it goes..thanks for all the help

you need to work out how many cals it takes you to maintain then start upping them from there. You can find that out using info from the link i gave you earlier. Just as a matter of interest, I am shorter than you, i have a slow metabolism and i can cut on 3000 cals. So you may want to adjust that bulking total.

**armbar83** · 01-24-2007, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by dipset54

Haha sorry guys i was just kidding..i guess i should have put an emote in there..no offense intended..on a real note, thanks for the help

thank you for being cool, most of the people who get good advice will argue and say they are going to do it anyway. i think it gives people hope when they see a 19 year old that isn't an ass. good luck!

**eberasain** · 01-25-2007, 10:18 AM

even if you did take the gear, which you probably will, your diet isnt good enough, so you'll waste your money, gain maybe 10 pounds and lose about 5 pounds for a few hundred dollars. Spend it on a personal trainers or a shitload of magazines concerning nutrition.

**STB** · 01-25-2007, 01:23 PM

www.fitday.com

This site is free and an excellent tool, and you need it...badly.

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