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    The Truth About Dianabol Only Cycles

    Common sense tells us that a testosterone base plus an oral (dbol in this case) is ALWAYS better than an oral-only cycle.. or than a testosterone base-only cycle. This is irrefutable.

    However the effects of Dianabol are greatly underappreciated. For one, it has the obvious positive affects of immense strength and size gains..almost immediately. It is very anti-catabolic.. it is a cortisol blocker (until the body catches up and adapts after a couple of weeks). Some even report positive mood changes while using it.

    You certainly will lose the water weight that you've gained. A lot of people on here say that the only thing you gain from Dbol is pure water weight. This is bullshit. After the cessation of your cycle, you will lose some of the 'gains' on the scale. However with proper PCT, there's no reason you shouldn't keep at least 50% of the poundage that you've gained. You will lose a good amount of the strength, but this is true with any AAS.

    Sexual side affects will be nill if you keep the cycle no longer than 3-4 weeks. High blood pressure and bad cholesterol values are still possible issues.

    I don't have to use the couple people from the gym recently for examples. Look back at the Pumping Iron era. Guess what their staple ergogenic aid was..

    Too many people hear something and take it as gospel and spread the word. People who are new to the game then again take that as gospel and spread it. I feel there's a lot of misinformation.. not just about Dianabol
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    You can lose all your gains using any AAS! It doesnt matter if its oral or injectable or supposatory! The key to maintaining gains is to create the training/diet/rest/anabolic environment that those gains want to remain in.

    I can confidently say that a large and significant number of amateur bodybuilders work extra hard on their training and diet during cycling, but as soon as they come off they slack off compared to when on! How do they expect to maintain the gains when they fall behind on training and diet PLUS their natural test levels can never compete with the level they had in them during a cycle???

    Keeping gains is a science on its own, if people want to make gains and keep them then their "on-cycle" training and nutrition should be their "all-year-round" one also!

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    Preach it brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAEW44
    You can lose all your gains using any AAS! It doesnt matter if its oral or injectable or supposatory! The key to maintaining gains is to create the training/diet/rest/anabolic environment that those gains want to remain in.

    I can confidently say that a large and significant number of amateur bodybuilders work extra hard on their training and diet during cycling, but as soon as they come off they slack off compared to when on! How do they expect to maintain the gains when they fall behind on training and diet PLUS their natural test levels can never compete with the level they had in them during a cycle???

    Keeping gains is a science on its own, if people want to make gains and keep them then their "on-cycle" training and nutrition should be their "all-year-round" one also!
    I whole-heartedly agree. The type of juice doesn't determine the gains kept in the end. It's diet, training, and commitment/consistency. To say that one is worthless alone because you'll lose it all (such as Dbol in this case) is ignorant

    There is a point though that without the use of the exogenous levels of hormones that you used to get there, you can't keep all that you'd like to or expect to

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    Dianabol's bad rep comes mainly from its harsh sides, it can pretty much lead to all the feared AAS side effects especially when beginners use it they are extra happy with the water gain and angry with the sides, and then when the water gain is gone they are all angry about it because it was all sides and only temporary gains!

    I'm sure more advanced users who like i mentioned above are on an "all-year" hard training program appreciate its results more since they can maintain more of them plus they are probably past the point of getting common sides from using it.

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    6 weeks low dose dbol + aromasin.

    works like a charm.

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    I couldn't agree more, you can even use it low dose while cutting to preserve muscle mass, and an anti e will take care of the bloating - I tried it, and liked it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremys
    Common sense tells us that a testosterone base plus an oral (dbol in this case) is ALWAYS better than an oral-only cycle.. or than a testosterone base-only cycle. This is irrefutable.

    However the effects of Dianabol are greatly underappreciated. For one, it has the obvious positive affects of immense strength and size gains..almost immediately. It is very anti-catabolic.. it is a cortisol blocker (until the body catches up and adapts after a couple of weeks). Some even report positive mood changes while using it.

    You certainly will lose the water weight that you've gained. A lot of people on here say that the only thing you gain from Dbol is pure water weight. This is bullshit. After the cessation of your cycle, you will lose some of the 'gains' on the scale. However with proper PCT, there's no reason you shouldn't keep at least 50% of the poundage that you've gained. You will lose a good amount of the strength, but this is true with any AAS.

    Sexual side affects will be nill if you keep the cycle no longer than 3-4 weeks. High blood pressure and bad cholesterol values are still possible issues.

    I don't have to use the couple people from the gym recently for examples. Look back at the Pumping Iron era. Guess what their staple ergogenic aid was..

    Too many people hear something and take it as gospel and spread the word. People who are new to the game then again take that as gospel and spread it. I feel there's a lot of misinformation.. not just about Dianabol
    I agree with alot your saying

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    I agree with your reasoning. The problem of Dbol only cycles comes from (usually young) inexperienced users who select Dbol as it was the only thing they could get hold of or because "big john" from the gym said it was good, or because they are scared of needles. I have no problem with a person who has done the nessecary research selecting a Dbol only cycle because it is right for what they need. I just have an issue with people automatically jumping on the dbol cycle without considering the alternatives they have.

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    agreed...i think alot of the negative stuff about dianabol and orals in general comes from young high school kids abusing this stuff and giving it a bad name. look @ the all the statistics goin against it...all high school kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremys
    Common sense tells us that a testosterone base plus an oral (dbol in this case) is ALWAYS better than an oral-only cycle.. or than a testosterone base-only cycle. This is irrefutable.

    However the effects of Dianabol are greatly underappreciated. For one, it has the obvious positive affects of immense strength and size gains..almost immediately. It is very anti-catabolic.. it is a cortisol blocker (until the body catches up and adapts after a couple of weeks). Some even report positive mood changes while using it.

    You certainly will lose the water weight that you've gained. A lot of people on here say that the only thing you gain from Dbol is pure water weight. This is bullshit. After the cessation of your cycle, you will lose some of the 'gains' on the scale. However with proper PCT, there's no reason you shouldn't keep at least 50% of the poundage that you've gained. You will lose a good amount of the strength, but this is true with any AAS.

    Sexual side affects will be nill if you keep the cycle no longer than 3-4 weeks. High blood pressure and bad cholesterol values are still possible issues.

    I don't have to use the couple people from the gym recently for examples. Look back at the Pumping Iron era. Guess what their staple ergogenic aid was..

    Too many people hear something and take it as gospel and spread the word. People who are new to the game then again take that as gospel and spread it. I feel there's a lot of misinformation.. not just about Dianabol

    GREAT post man....ive been trying to get this message across to the board for some time now and up untill recently have been getting flamed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    I agree with your reasoning. The problem of Dbol only cycles comes from (usually young) inexperienced users who select Dbol as it was the only thing they could get hold of or because "big john" from the gym said it was good, or because they are scared of needles. I have no problem with a person who has done the nessecary research selecting a Dbol only cycle because it is right for what they need. I just have an issue with people automatically jumping on the dbol cycle without considering the alternatives they have.
    Thank you!

    Jeremys,
    Most of us know that this compound has a great deal of benefits and agree with what you're saying. The thing is, 90% of the time, when someone wants to run a D only cycle, its because of the reasons mentioned by perfectbeast.

    Same thing when people don't have any test. There's nothing wrong with that, IMO...Knock yourself out. BUT, most of the time it's because someone handed them a bottle of XX and no test.

    I try pretty hard to give them the benefit of the doubt first by saying, "oh why do you want to do this, or avoid this, etc ,etc..."

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    Amen brother J.
    If you use an AI, I think you can keep 60-70% of gains.
    It's indiviual like evrything else.
    Important to get REAL Dbol too. Lotta fake "headache-bol" out there.
    It's also not a bad cruise product, at low dose, 10mg/EOD IMFHO.
    GREAT POST!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAEW44
    You can lose all your gains using any AAS! It doesnt matter if its oral or injectable or supposatory! The key to maintaining gains is to create the training/diet/rest/anabolic environment that those gains want to remain in.

    I can confidently say that a large and significant number of amateur bodybuilders work extra hard on their training and diet during cycling, but as soon as they come off they slack off compared to when on! How do they expect to maintain the gains when they fall behind on training and diet PLUS their natural test levels can never compete with the level they had in them during a cycle???

    Keeping gains is a science on its own, if people want to make gains and keep them then their "on-cycle" training and nutrition should be their "all-year-round" one also!
    nicely put

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremys
    Common sense tells us that a testosterone base plus an oral (dbol in this case) is ALWAYS better than an oral-only cycle.. or than a testosterone base-only cycle. This is irrefutable.

    However the effects of Dianabol are greatly underappreciated. For one, it has the obvious positive affects of immense strength and size gains..almost immediately. It is very anti-catabolic.. it is a cortisol blocker (until the body catches up and adapts after a couple of weeks). Some even report positive mood changes while using it.

    You certainly will lose the water weight that you've gained. A lot of people on here say that the only thing you gain from Dbol is pure water weight. This is bullshit. After the cessation of your cycle, you will lose some of the 'gains' on the scale. However with proper PCT, there's no reason you shouldn't keep at least 50% of the poundage that you've gained. You will lose a good amount of the strength, but this is true with any AAS.

    Sexual side affects will be nill if you keep the cycle no longer than 3-4 weeks. High blood pressure and bad cholesterol values are still possible issues.

    I don't have to use the couple people from the gym recently for examples. Look back at the Pumping Iron era. Guess what their staple ergogenic aid was..

    Too many people hear something and take it as gospel and spread the word. People who are new to the game then again take that as gospel and spread it. I feel there's a lot of misinformation.. not just about Dianabol
    you should have just stopped here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bor
    I couldn't agree more, you can even use it low dose while cutting to preserve muscle mass, and an anti e will take care of the bloating - I tried it, and liked it!
    Wouldn't this be considered a bridge cycle into another heavy cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-CELL
    Wouldn't this be considered a bridge cycle into another heavy cycle?
    No. It would be running a "low dose of dbol while cutting" cycle.

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