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    Whats better for a boxer EQ or Deca

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    Whats better for a boxer EQ or Deca

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    Only a idiot would use steroids to box.

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    why wouldnt a boxer use steroids?

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    Deca..Might have you carrying a little extra weight but it protects against injuring your taxed joints..I take it you lift weights too??

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    Make sure to take the deca with test..Test MUST be taken IMO for a correct cycle..

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    I'm askin this question fo rmy friend , he boxes and he want to knwo what you guys thought. He works out every once and a while but is relaly crackin down on boxing now,, just wanted to knwo if there was anythign that can give him a good advantage without making him get tired fast. He also needs to lean out a bit maybe lose 10-15 pounds. I was thinkin EQ for him , but then again the Deca gives the joints some relife.

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    you're right about the deca carrying a bit more water but I disagree about HAVING to use test for the cycle to be correct(EQ is just so mild and takes so long its not worth it)...However to answer the question there have been fighters caught on deca after they are tested by the atheletic commission after a fight..James toney was suspended for testing positive fro AAS (deca)...mike tyson was also suspended for missing a mandatory urine test after a fight...I have know a few boxers to take test for the xtra agression and strength...so that what you might want to look into...
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    halo or mibilerone (cheque drops...if you can find them) are very popular in boxing. If I were to use steroids to box it would be no more than 600mg/wk total androgen intake. Anything higher than that and your bloodpressure will be up to the point it will effect your wind and endurance. Hope this helps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    you're right about the deca carrying a bit more water but I disagree about HAVING to use test for the cycle to be correct...However to answer the question there have been fighters caught on deca after they are tested by the atheletic commission after a fight..James toney was suspended for testing positive fro AAS (deca)...mike tyson was also suspended for missing a mandatory urine test after a fight...I have know a few boxers to take test for the xtra agression and strength...so that what you might want to look into...
    Libido reasons bro..Without test in my cycle I can't finish and have a diminished sexual urges, makes me want to blow my head off ..Some can though and I salute them..Test is not a bad idea I agree..Or maybe some cheque drops right before he walks in the ring..lol

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    Oh I totally understand bro...but thats what i meant not everyone that happens too...I can take any compound and no test and I'm fine ...no libido problems at all...But again everone is different ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    Oh I totally understand bro...but thats what i meant not everyone that happens too...I can take any compound and no test and I'm fine ...no libido problems at all...But again everone is different ...
    Lucky

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    Like bigmax mentioned and i agree, your friend could possibly run into some problems with testing, if he were to run deca. Since the compound stays in your system and is detectable for a long time.

    IMO he should look into a short ester AAS, one which gets out of the system fairly quickly, thus reducing the chance for any testing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italionos
    Whats better for a boxer EQ or Deca

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    Eq will not help any w/ goals. eq is known for increasing appetite and adding vascularity. deca is best for joints. If you want strength and aggression look at jdavis2007's post, he was right on the money. cycle history for more advice.

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    Thanx for the advise guys i'll let him know about that test, sounds good .

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    Did you read jdavis2007's post? many here will answer what you ask w/o really considering your goals. you asked between deca and eq, but these really arent your best choices. are these two all you got access to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason865
    Only a idiot would use steroids to box.
    ?? ok chief

    i do mma and id cycled test and tren while training. im thinking about doing a test prop/OT or prop/mast/halo cycle.

    if you are competing and have to make weight var, mast, and halo would all be good.

    i havent used halo but it sounds great for striking sports where alot of cardio and aggression are necessary, if you dont mind some liver toxicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    Did you read jdavis2007's post? many here will answer what you ask w/o really considering your goals. you asked between deca and eq, but these really arent your best choices. are these two all you got access to?
    Bro,Whats that suppose to mean??..did you not read what he posted "whats better for BOXER"?..What would you think his goals were ?? i'm sure its not enter a BBing contest...Bro,Not trying to flame here but if you took the time to read the posts before you...I posted that deca wasnt the best choice for apparent reasons...I also said EQ wasnt worth it...having some experience in certain situations i advised a test might be in his best interest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    Bro,Whats that suppose to mean??..did you not read what he posted "whats better for BOXER"?..What would you think his goals were ?? i'm sure its not enter a BBing contest...Bro,Not trying to flame here but if you took the time to read the posts before you...I posted that deca wasnt the best choice for apparent reasons...I also said EQ wasnt worth it...having some experience in certain situations i advised a test might be in his best interest...
    your quote:
    "did you not read what he posted "whats better for BOXER"?"
    origional thread quote:
    "Whats better for a boxer EQ or Deca"
    whats better for a boxer is neither deca nor eq. people read deca or eq and then go into libido issues. myself included but in this casse I think its important to understand that its for boxing. that being the case he should look into other options.
    "Bro,Not trying to flame here but if you took the time to read the posts before you...I posted that deca wasnt the best choice for apparent reasons...I also said EQ wasnt worth it..."
    I didnt see this. if that was your intention I missed it.
    "having some experience in certain situations i advised a test might be in his best interest"
    necessary but I wouldnt say sufficient. if you want an edge the jdavis's advice w/ maybe the addition of tren

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    really ...well tren is known to have guys sucking wind cause of the adverse reaction of lowering the red blood cell count(not good if he was preparing for a fight)....LOL..I mean we can go all day here bro...you said look into other options...give us or him some more to go on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    really ...well tren is known to have guys sucking wind cause of the adverse reaction of lowering the red blood cell count(not good if he was preparing for a fight)....LOL..I mean we can go all day here bro...you said look into other options...give us or him some more to go on...
    this iis the info on the profile section:
    "Trenbolone promotes red blood cell production and increases the rate of glycogen replenishment, significantly improving recovery"
    also my personal exp. all suggestions have been made that I would suggest but I think they are overlooked because of earlier posts that delt w/ deca/eq/impotence. I just thought he should acknowledge the one post that I thought really addressed wat would be best for a boxer. but your suggestion of test is valid. and if all he can get is deca or eq I think he would be better off w/o

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    Did you read jdavis2007's post? many here will answer what you ask w/o really considering your goals. you asked between deca and eq, but these really arent your best choices. are these two all you got access to?
    I agree jdavis2007 posts is good advice, but you come off wrong like PPL are giving bad info on purpose..I figured he had deca and eq and was trying to decide which to cycle while boxing..Your right neither is a great answer some prop,halo,and maybe cheque drops like I metioned early would be more beneficial not just because the libido issue..The man sounds foriegn and Iam just trying to explain things in an easy way..He asked and I told him out of the two deca would be the better choice being a boxer myself and a bodybuilder, it does help with some of my pain trying to both at once..I recently quit growth now it's microtear after microtear..Iam getting sick of all this off time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    really ...well tren is known to have guys sucking wind cause of the adverse reaction of lowering the red blood cell count(not good if he was preparing for a fight)....LOL..I mean we can go all day here bro...you said look into other options...give us or him some more to go on...
    i agree with this. when i cycled tren my cardio was wierd. i had muscular endurance but my breath wasnt there. i could wrestle, but gassed if i was boxing.

    another thing, i would say is to run test prop instead of enanthate because i bloated some and it made it harder to stay light.

    imo i wouldnt run test enth and definately not tren again. the tren just added so much weight, my hands felt alot slower. i just dont think its a good compound for our sport.

    i would stick to prop and throw in some var or masteron or maybe winny. maybe some halo to like i said before.

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