sus250 and primo

[bbminded]

im getting ready to start a cycle of sust250 and primo. im only gonna do 1 shot of sust a week and 200mg of primo a week. i know you all think this is not enough but everytime ive done sust and that amount ive put on over 20lbs and had no side effects. now i have never done primo before and have finally got my hands on some. how well will the two stack together and will the primo help to lower and estrogenic side effects. any personall experiences two please.

[bbminded]

also should i start them at the same time ?

[bbminded]

its a ten week cycle

[Random]

Honestly man, 200mg of primo a wk, for most people will not produce good results...

[GFLEXXX]

Done Primo many times and it should be run at 400mg+ EW. Primo is one of the best slow and steady lean muscle gainers out there. Do it at the right dose and you'll probably love it. Anything less than 400 EW and you'll probably say you didn't like it after. You'll be missing out on the full effectiveness of the short esters in the 250 by running EW shots, but I have run similar program (except with Primo at 400 EW) and made solid gains...

look to serms/ai for lowered est. sides Primo really won't do this for you. Also if your prone to losing hair - Primo might help you lose some more

[frank12391]

There are some who get good results from only 250mg ew. If you are content with that you could still split that dose up into twice a week shots or run 180mg every 3rd day or 125ml every 2nd at least, you will get more out of it because at the moment your only getting stable levels of the decanoate ester which I think has a half life of about a week. When running it more reguarly you will get more stable doses of prop and phenylpropionate which I think have a half life of 2 and 3 days respectively but don't quote me on the half life lenghts exactly. Try 300mg of primo ew and see what happens if you think you respond to lower doses, you could do 100mg every 3rd day with your sus shots. The extra shots won't be so bad as you only gonna be shooting 1 1/2 cc - 2cc depending on the concentration of the Primo. Remember you can run up to 3ml in each glute at one time and about 2ml into the delts. Also you'de be cutting the prop with the primo so it shouldn't be painfull

[bbminded]

ok ill up the dose on the primo for sure. just gonna have to buy another bottle. shit is expensive. never got gyno from one shot a week ofthe sust. what are the chances at two shots a week 500mg. o got a small case og gyno on each side about eight years ago from being stupid with dball. to many and no pct or anti estrogens. never had a problem since though. love sust. just looking forward to primo for the first time. would it be ok to add another cutter in near the end of the cycle. like say masteron or winni

[bbminded]

also i have clomid and nolvadex on hand

[MartyMcFly]

ok ill up the dose on the primo for sure. just gonna have to buy another bottle. shit is expensive. never got gyno from one shot a week ofthe sust. what are the chances at two shots a week 500mg. o got a small case og gyno on each side about eight years ago from being stupid with dball. to many and no pct or anti estrogens. never had a problem since though. love sust. just looking forward to primo for the first time. would it be ok to add another cutter in near the end of the cycle. like say masteron or winni

what is your bf %

[bbminded]

around 8%

[frank12391]

You can use .25mg -.5mg of liquidex during your cycle or run Letro at .25mg - .5mg and a good P.C.T. Letro dosn't go down well with Nolva or other serms, they interact. The Nolva reduces the effectiveness of Letro. So if your running letro, swap it for l/dex in your P.C.T. You can't beat letro for gyno. Have it on hand if your prone and only use it if need be. I would still run l/dex in your cycle to keep estro sides down and bloat you might get on higher doses of suss.

D/bol won't give you gyno because it dosen't aromatise, could have been a little extra body fat,

Check CBino tittie Doctor's tread on gyno.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

[bbminded]

dboll is one of the worst at causing gyno maybe your thinking of something else

[frank12391]

dboll is one of the worst at causing gyno maybe your thinking of something else

Disagree

You did use it for a kick start? Around 4 weeks, I suspect? How do you develop gyno that quick? It's also used as a bridge between cycles @ 10mg ed and some use it during P.C.T for androgen replacement. If you were correct, It would be the worst ever bridging compound.

[bbminded]

were talking about dianabol right highly androgenic and anabolic the pink tai ones i took

[frank12391]

Yep, The flying lizard with a pommy accent. Less anabolic than test but twice as Androgenic, 40/60 ratio. It dosen't aromatise like test, a little less than half the rate of test and if your only gonna use it for 4 weeks, I don't see it being a problem with gyno Bro, only water retention.

[frank12391]

Were you 8% body fat then, if so did you loose a lot of fat?

[bbminded]

im not doing a cycle of dball i got gyno from it 8 years ago since then ive used test e and sustanon 250 winny eq and none of them caused any problems

[frank12391]

You don't generally cycle it, you use it to kick start a cycle,
I give up

[bbminded]

thatsnew news to me then havent done much research on it since i knew i would never take it again ill take your word on it