Clen-dnp-eca

[the.tunisian.muscle]

What do you think if i do this


2 weeks clenbu


after


10 days DNP


after

2 weeks ECA ( i know that perfectbeast said 14 days to clen betareceptors but i think that 10 days is enough , no ?)


after 13 days DNP



after


10 days CLEN


what do you think about my programm kill fat


of course 4 times cardio / week 45 min


i wait your v critics and advise


thanks to everybody

[the.tunisian.muscle]

****to clean beta receptors


not to clen beta receptors


sorry for the mistake

[Jay-Ace]

Nope, sorry bro but all wrong!!


The ECA will NOT upregulate (clean) your beta-receptors.

Also, I wouldn't do 10 days DNP and then break before doing another 13 days DNP. If you want to do DNP do the cycle correctly, don't break it up as that will play havoc with your metabolism and water levels.

[hugovsilva]

Nope, sorry bro but all wrong!!


The ECA will NOT upregulate (clean) your beta-receptors.

Also, I wouldn't do 10 days DNP and then break before doing another 13 days DNP. If you want to do DNP do the cycle correctly, don't break it up as that will play havoc with your metabolism and water levels.

He meant "cleaning" the beta-receptors during the 10 days of DNP. Not cleaning them with ECA. Anyway I agree about doing the DNP correctly instead doing 10 days, stop, and then doing another 13 days.

[the.tunisian.muscle]

yes, i mean that after 10 days , beta receptors will become normally again

i know that eca doesnt clean beta receptors

thanks

[Jay-Ace]

yes, i mean that after 10 days , beta receptors will become normally again

i know that eca doesnt clean beta receptors

thanks

Yeah get you now bro.

The DNP will upregulate your beta-receptors, maybe even as quickly as 1 day!!

[the.tunisian.muscle]

so my programm kill fat is perfect ????

[the.tunisian.muscle]

jay-ACE ,to be sure, where can i order safely my DNP ????

[SHAGGY]

Actually sorry to say this bro, but you are not allowed to ask for any sources on this forum. But to easeyou mind, you CAN find it in belgium.
I know I do.

SHAGGY

[SHAGGY]

What doses are you planning on taking?? DNP is a pretty harsh drug that on its own is hard to handle for most, following a stimulant course it would seem to be even more difficult I think. Have you used DNP before??
Maybe best to use it on its own to see how you react??
Just my opinion.
How much weight do you want to lose??

SHAGGY

[ascendant]

i don't think it's a good idea to jump from compound to compound like that. with the clen, that stuff has a half-life of 36 hours, so there will still be a lot in your system when you start the DNP. that much stimulation can cause some serious problems with your heart.

if you're actually willing to take DNP, might as well just take that. with how fast you lose weight with it, that should be all you'll need. personally i don't think DNP is worth the risk though.

if i were you, i'd be just sticking with the clen or ECA and use ketotifen to refresh your receptors every 3 weeks for 1 week straight at 1mg. if you can't get keto, you can try diphenhydramine HCL, but it doesn't work for everyone. diphen can be found in many sleep aids as well as some anti-histamines. it's what people are recommending when they tell you to use benadryl, only benadryl costs about 4-5 times as much as a generic version that's just as effective.

[the.tunisian.muscle]

thanks for all advises, i appreciate.

i want to lose 75 lbs (30 kg)

i want to be ripped to the bone

i dunno if i can find dnp in belgium but like said shaggy, it s forbidden to ask sources so i will not ask anymore

when i use clen , i have the impression to eat candies

no palpitations

no tremors

no more sweating

no sleepless

but i tried it during 10 days.

about dnp, i read all about it

i will take 200 mg first days , and after 4 days 400 mg untill the day 10

and i will take supplements like potassium , pyruvate,t3...

ascendant, what do you think i do a break of 3 days before news cycle so it will be

2 weeks clen

3 days nothing

1O days dnp

3 days nothing

14 days eca

3 Days nothing

etc untill end

i am 230 lbs, 188 cm and 17 % bf

23 years old

so what do you think again now ?

[Haro3]

you realize if ur 230lbs right now at 17% that means u only have 40lbs of bodyfat right? and if you lose 70lbs ur losing a significant amount of muscle as well........

[the.tunisian.muscle]

yes i realise but i want to be at 4-5 bf

and dont worry for me


i gain quickly muscle mass

i have a special diet to be huge, and believe me, i gain 11 kg muscle in 4 month

dont need creatine, dont need roids to be huge, i just eat good and train very hardly...

thanks for this warning haro 3

[the.tunisian.muscle]

ok after read some new post

i decided to use benhadryl one week before the using of dnp and one week after


good idea or not ?

[New2Anabolic]

I wonder how harsh eca stack is on your system (heart, liver) if you take it for a month straight. -- I'm also not sure how long you are supposed to cycle it safely.

[the.tunisian.muscle]

two years before, i used xenadrine rfa-one, it s just ephedrine + caffeine


and i made every day 45 min cardio during 26 days

in one month, i lost 11 kg ( 23lbs)

i didnt feel side effects, and my heart was very good !

[the.tunisian.muscle]

hey SV1


WHY dont you give your oppinion ?

an oppinion of an expert in dnp is very usefull

[SHAGGY]

I believe you should stay away from the DNP for now, it is a drug that can be used "safely" but it takes alot of planning, knowing your body and I don't think you need it right now, maybe try seeing a proffesional nutritionist, and if you do decide to use DNP try it on its own in a period when you have been clean from any stimulants or roids for a while, just so you know and learn every feeling or impression DNP gives you.

The weight you lost during the Xenadrine course would have been water and muscle also, nonetheless if you can do it without DNP(and apparantly you can) I suggest you do it with clen, or T3/T4 if you have used them before.

SHAGGY

[the.tunisian.muscle]

T3 I never will touch it, my sister is hypothyroid and when i see her, i dont want to play with my thyroid to take medics every day during all my life

about CLEN

i dont have side effects,so i guess that it doesn t lose me fat....

it s theb big question that i m asking myself

"no side effects mean no effects ????"

[the.tunisian.muscle]

and i think that i know how to use dnp, i read all about it

begin with 200-250 mg after day four , If everything is ok(no rach, no allergies, doesnt iches), bump it at 400 untill day 10 after stop it

sleep with opens windows

drink two gallons of water

stay always hydrated so

eat fruice

take pyruvate,t3, calcium,potassium,magnesium, eca for energy,and others stuff supplements

reduce cardio at 30 min and dont train hardly your muscles.



eat carb hydrates but not too much...


and it s all.

am i right shaggy ????

[SHAGGY]

Well you seem to have the geste(sp??) of it, but I mean regarding a substance like DNP that has a high potential for danger I would tend to think you would have researched it alot and know that it has a few considerable risks despite people using it alot lately, just knowing what to do isn't enough in my eyes to use it(just my opinion though), I would like to hope that anyone using it would know as much as possible about it including its mechanisms of action an potential long/short term risks. Not attacking you or anything, just don't think it is necessary yet.

I am not going to parrot and say; Don't do DNP, it will kill you, it will make you go blind, you will cook alive.
It can be used safely, but in a sense it is a very extreme way to lose weight, and should be a last resort(or not an option at all for most). Also regarding your cycle plan, knowing the halflife of DNP and knowing that it makes one much more sensitive to stimulants I would run it alone far away from any other compound just to be sure.

Also know if you screw up DNP your screwed and won't be able to do anything about it.

Nonetheless all of the above is just my opinion and should be considered as just an opinion.

Hope you decide not to use DNP, and if you do be carefull and I wish you all the best.

SHAGGY

[ruhkus]

I am really not an expert but everything I have read says T3 is way safer than DNP....DNP scares the crap out of me when I read about it. You are the first person on the forum I have read that says he is willing to take DNP, but not T3....

But I could be wrong

[SHAGGY]

In all honesty you are wrong(not trying to be jerk or anything) many people have used it, safely to, but it should really not be used so casually as is sometimes done.

SHAGGY

[the.tunisian.muscle]

i did a lot of research about t3 and believe me, you wouldn t use it if you knew what i know.

the problem is not only to take medics for all your life, it could be too

"a deformation of the thyroide which would appear by an excessive swelling of the neck"

it s what the endocrinolgy doctor of my sister said me :

i m saying myself, bullshit,he only say me this to fright me

untill the day where i saw an employee of the post office with a huge neck.

i ask this man, he said me that he had a problem with thyroid.

so after this story, it doesnt mean that everybody will get this problem,maybe in good proportionning of t3, it s safe (like any other supplements)

but by precaution, i dont want to play with my thyroid.