First Cycle 175 5' 10"

[Amateur BB111]

well i'm 175 about 5'10" very lean, been training for
about 4-5 years straight... short breaks here and there...
probably 7-8% body fat... i eat like a horse (5000 cal./per day) and i still
stay lean... (very clean Diet)... wondering what i can
expect from a Test enanthate (400 mg/per week1-8)
Winstrol 50 mg ED week 7-12, starting nolvadex 20mg ED clomid 2 50mg ED weeks prior and running it straight through my cycle...
i know i'm prone to gyno because i had gyne surgery and
i never even did steroids... i've had it since puberty...
let me know what you guys think if i should probably have some
letro on hand or what..

[passthetest]

Hm I think its a good first cycle. I would consider running arimidex throughout the cycle and if your gyno prone then yes you better have letro on hand. The only thing I don't like is the winny for 5 weeks. At 8% bf there is very little cutting necesarry. Maybe running the test e t10 weeks not 8 may not see any gains until 6 weeks in.

[Kristopher22]

i know i'm prone to gyno because i had gyne surgery and
i never even did steroids... i've had it since puberty...
let me know what you guys think if i should probably have some
letro on hand or what..

What type of surgery did you have? Correct me if I am wrong but I thought if you had the surgery, gyno would never be an issue afterward??

[C_Bino]

I think you need to work on your diet more before you do this cycle. That would be my opinion as I can tell its flawed from the info you are giving.

[Amateur BB111]

I don't know i feel my diet is pretty decent...
break fast is oatmeal with 10 egg whites and some peanut butter...
pre work out mass shake... lunch is usually 3 chicken breasts and whole wheat pasta and veggies (usually brocolli... i take a mass gainer shake in between lunch and dinner... dinner is usually a 12 oz sirloin and a giant sweet potatoe... and i also take a normal protein shake before bed... and yes i had gyne removed... i don't think that means you can't get it again...
can someone back that up???
thanx for your replies guys...
-DouG-

[armbar83]

I don't know i feel my diet is pretty decent...
break fast is oatmeal with 10 egg whites and some peanut butter...
pre work out mass shake... lunch is usually 3 chicken breasts and whole wheat pasta and veggies (usually brocolli... i take a mass gainer shake in between lunch and dinner... dinner is usually a 12 oz sirloin and a giant sweet potatoe... and i also take a normal protein shake before bed... and yes i had gyne removed... i don't think that means you can't get it again...
can someone back that up???
thanx for your replies guys...
-DouG-

honestly, something doesnt match up. im 5'10 175 and i dont eat near that much. either you JUST started eating like this or your burning wayyy to many calories everyday. not trying to flame but something sounds off...

[Amateur BB111]

I'm telling ya i do eat that much...
i'm bloated all the time... usually i strain to finish my meals...
i eat like a horse for real...

[SMAN12b]

you need to eat every 2-3 hours 6-8 meals a day. Track yoru calories

If you can NOT gain weight on your own, steroids will not magically put on weight for you

[armbar83]

its simple math, at 5'10 175 you just dont burn that many calories everyday. for an "extremely active" 18 yr old male with your stats you burn max 3300 calories a day. if your taking in 1700 extra calories everyday thats 51,100 calories or so a month which translates into roughly 14-15 lbs gained per month. it just doesnt work out. im really not trying to argue with you but you havent been consistently eating 5000 calories a day.

http://www.shapefit.com/dailycalorie-calc.html

[Amateur BB111]

well i have packed on weight since august...
i went from 165-175... since then...
i wasn't eating as much then... but i was more cut up...

[Hellmaskbanned]

You eat like a baby horse.

[Jakspro]

in my opninion just continue growing natty, if your not putting on weight eating that much at 175 then something is flawed; training, rest or diet... How old are ya btw?

[Amateur BB111]

I'm 22 years old...

[Amateur BB111]

what weight would one want to achieve before considering steroids at 5'10"?
i mean i know steroids aren't the answer... but i would like to compete in at least some amateur competitions... i really do love the sport of bodybuilding...

[Amateur BB111]

What type of surgery did you have? Correct me if I am wrong but I thought if you had the surgery, gyno would never be an issue afterward??

i had glandular excision... in fact i got my surgery done by Dr. Blau... he told me he had done many bodybuilders including Dave Palumbo, and Jason Arntz...

[C_Bino]

what weight would one want to achieve before considering steroids at 5'10"?
i mean i know steroids aren't the answer... but i would like to compete in at least some amateur competitions... i really do love the sport of bodybuilding...

Aim for 200lbs first I would say.

[Bigmax]

yeah bro,have to agree with some of the guys...get you a better base...200lbs would be ideal...

[Amateur BB111]

my goal is to be 220 shredded at like 5%...
so weight till like 200 to roid... that makes sense...
thanx man..

[Cat316]

Wait till 200 and run the enthanate for more than 8 weeks at least 10 or 12.

[testosterona]

damn, 200lbs at 5ft 10in would be pretty big, esp if he was under 10%. that's just MO tho, lol

test

[stacked566]

Bro, I'm 5' 10" and was 195 @ 11% before I started AAS. I don't think I was eating 5k kcals, but still eating more frequently and 3800 or so if I remember my old diet. You @ 185 w/ the low BF would be better than being 200lbs and 12% BF IMO. I think you will respond better to the compounds than a larger, but fatter person. Give it another month or so, then re-evaluate. BTW, after PCT I was 220@12% BF from deca/ test e/ and dbol, with clen thrown in at the end. Stuff's amazing!!

[oc pitbull]

You eat like a baby horse.

hhahaa

[Amateur BB111]

Bro, I'm 5' 10" and was 195 @ 11% before I started AAS. I don't think I was eating 5k kcals, but still eating more frequently and 3800 or so if I remember my old diet. You @ 185 w/ the low BF would be better than being 200lbs and 12% BF IMO. I think you will respond better to the compounds than a larger, but fatter person. Give it another month or so, then re-evaluate. BTW, after PCT I was 220@12% BF from deca/ test e/ and dbol, with clen thrown in at the end. Stuff's amazing!!

thanx bro... i just checked the scales and i'm just about 180 now actually...
i've been really eating as much as i possibly can lately... like till i'm about to vomit... lots of steak chicken and potatoes and whole wheat pasta... i'll post my weight and BF % a month from now and see what everyone thinks...
thanx...
in the mean time i'll find a deal on some enanthate... maybe some cypionate as well...

[stacked566]

Just stick to one ester of test (enanthate or cyp). Those two are very similiar anyways. Test E + dbol would be a sweet first cycle.