1st Cycle for a friend.

[dhriscerr]

Ok Im running Test E only at 500mgs and just took my second shot this week, I am running .25mgs l-dex and have letro on hand for gyno Im going to run this for 10-12 weeks depending on when it kicks in, I front loaded with 500mgs the first to shots so 1000mgs my first week next will go back down to 250mgs a shot. i have Nolva and Clomid for PCT, and might get more l-dex for it too. I would advise him on the same PCT and AI for his cycle.

My friend that is a personal trainer in Denver wants to put on some mass, he is 5'11" 193-97 about 13% He has been switching between bulking and fuctional training every couple months because sometimes he does 5k's and mud runs and things with his clients. But he wants to put on some size. He' isn't afraid of needles so eod wont bother him, plus ill show him how to do the shot and aspirate and everything when I take him the stuff. He wants a kickstart though.

So which one of these do you think would be the better cycle?
1# 1-4 eod Test Prop at 100mgs
1-10 Test E at 500mgs

2# 1-5 20mgs, moving up to 40-50mgs Dbol
1-10 Test E at 500mgs

3# any other notable kickstarts???

[happy]

test e only the very same as you are taking will do your freind to.

[dhriscerr]

I know If im taking it it will be fine and actually the preffered cycle,(1 compound no guessing with a problem) Hence why I'm doing it. But I know alot of people kickstart there first cycle so I'm looking for those guys out there.

[king6]

I would choose prop as a kickstart. I have done dbol, and got pretty strong. But I think the prop would be better for size.

[Jefferey]

Don't need test prop if using D-bol..

WK 1-10 Test E 500 mgs / EW
WK 1-4 D-bol 30 mgs / ED

[dhriscerr]

Don't need test prop if using D-bol..

WK 1-10 Test E 500 mgs / EW
WK 1-4 D-bol 30 mgs / ED

I know man, I had prop with Enethate in #1 and Dbol with Enethat in #2 I just wondered if prop with enethate or dbol with enethate would be better.
So your saying Test E with Dbol would be better first cycle than Prop Enethate? Thanks Jeffrey

[bigrose]

Do all three!

Wks 1-4: 100mg Prop EOD
Wks 1-6: 30mg Dbol/day
Wks 1-10 or 12: Test E 500mg/wk

That would be nice. Your buddy will love it.

[jamikehat]

I would choose prop as a kickstart. I have done dbol, and got pretty strong. But I think the prop would be better for size.

Agreed. I used dbol as a kickstart and ran test enth. My only complaint was the down period between my dbol ending and my test kicking in (even though I frontloaded) . Apparently this is a common thing. If I had it to do over again I would go all test with a prop kickstart. BTW any of those options will bring results...good luck...

[dhriscerr]

Do all three!

Wks 1-4: 100mg Prop EOD
Wks 1-6: 30mg Dbol/day
Wks 1-10 or 12: Test E 500mg/wk

That would be nice. Your buddy will love it.

My only prob with that cycle for a first one for him, would be the fact that if he has a prob right away is it caused by the prop or the dbol? If it was just prop and Test E and he discontinued the prop after 2-3 days if the prob went away you would know its from the prop. Anyone out there have problems with Prop but are fine with Test E or vice versa? Do some people not take to one test but are fine with another? Because isn't all test the same just different esters?