Critique of Bulking Diet

[toyo92]

My stats are 6'1" and 213 lbs maybe mid-teen BF %. I'm trying to gain weight maybe hit 220 before I start my first cycle(also bulking) but not increase that BF too much or if it all. I used the outlined diet from the BULKING THREAD but had to adjust accordingly to fit my schedule and certain meal, any advice would help.

Meal 1: Pro/Carb (1930 hrs)
Chicken Breast, 1 ½ cups of rice or potatoes
50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat (2230 hrs)
9 slices of turkey deli meat, 2 Tbsp of PB, small salad
55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat

Meal 3: Pro/Carb (0100 hrs)
9 slices of turkey deli meat, 1 ½ cups of rice or potatoes
55g protein / 54g carbs / 3g Fat

Meal 4: Pro/Fat (0400 hrs)
2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Miracle Whip, Veggies/Fruit or small salad
60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat

Meal 7: Pro/Carb (0600 hrs)
8 Egg Whites, 1 scoop of Whey Protein, 1 cup Oatmeal
50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 8: Pre-Workout (0830hrs)
2 Scoops of Whey Protein, 3 Large Bananas
40g protein / 30g carbs / 4g Fat

Workout (0915-1015)

Meal 5: PWO Nutrition (1030 hrs)
2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose/ 1 plain Bagel
40g protein / 100g carbs / 0g fat

Meal 6: PPWO/Before Bed (1230 hrs)
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil, Small salad
50g protein / 3g carbs / 3g fat

Sleep

[IBdmfkr]

Total macros/calories for the day?

[toyo92]

I believe its about 400g protein, 300g carbs and 55g fat....and around 3300-3600 calories.

[IBdmfkr]

Your numbers are off just by glancing at it.
Meal 4 you say Veggie/Fruit.. well big difference, one has carbs one doesn't.
Meal 5 you say 3 large bananas yet you only claim 30 carbs that meal, each banana has approx 30 carbs, so that's around 100 carbs.

I don't like the diet, here's a few reasons:
Way too much sodium (deli meats for majority of protein along with canned meat/tuna). Don't like preworkout meal, needs to be solid protein/lower GI carbs, not fruit. PPWO Meal should have Low/Med Gi carbs following the Dextrose (not to mention 80g dextrose is over-doing it, try 40-60max IMO).

I'd make a few changes and repost.

[toyo92]

in the event that the dfac serves grilled chicken breast (EOD) i could always load up on say 5-6 and use them for the next 2-3 meals for that day as well. Hmm, i guess i thought i had it slightly better but financially ill still need to work around it, things are hard to come by in the desert and it makes everything subject to change.

and thanks for the advice on the turkey breast. As far as tuna...you say the sodium in those too are unacceptable?

[IBdmfkr]

On www.calorieking.com It shows 1can (5.8oz) has approx. 560mg of sodium. So considering I try and stay under 1500-2000mg of sodium for the day I would consider that too much considering you're eating a ton of deli meat etc with your diet. It'll cause a lot of water retention and bloat, not to mention it can cause high blood pressure and the fact that a lot of sodium and preservatives just aren't healthy to consume constantly.

Here's the link to the tuna:
http://www.calorieking.com/foods/cal...lZCB0dW5h.html

[swing lo]

You sound like me bro! I'm deployed to Mosul and yeah the DFAC is horrible and inconsistant! IBdmfkr has been a great help to me and I'm still trying to come up with a good bulking diet but it's hard when they serve shit food at the DFAC'S.

IBdmfkr, the only thing we can rely on here as the best source of protein is the raw tuna they serve us and grilled chicken breast, but sometimes they only serve chicken breast on certain days but mostly everyday they have tuna. I was getting ready to throw back tuna all f*ckin day until you brought up the sodium issue.

So really and truly, we have to rely on protein shakes out here even though we would love to eat solid food when solid protein is called for. Sometimes it's just not possible and beleive me they serve more junk food out here in the desert than in the states!

I would say it's almost impossible to get a 4000cal clean diet out here with the shit food they serve.

As I said before the best source of protein we have is chicken breast, tuna, deli turkey, p-butter, and shakes. What can you suggest to the both of us because I will live of of shakes if that's what it takes to eat rite.

Thanks

[IBdmfkr]

Sometimes you gotta just deal with what is available.. So in that case I'd rather get my protein and caloric intake for the day than worry too much about sodium although it can pose an issue, keep an eye on your Blood Pressure, I'd take it on a weekly basis just to be safe, especially if running anabolics.

[toyo92]

again, thanks for the advice...in the event that im not willing to jepoardize my BP, bloat and anything else...could i buy MRPS's and load them down with oats to help slow digestion? besides hardboiled eggs (just the whites) theres not a whole lot i can see taking the place of a solid protein food source.

swing lo, whenever you get a chance, whats your diet look like as well?

[swing lo]

^ My diet is still in the works as we speak, meantine I have been pounding shakes and as much solid protein as possible as well as oatmeal, potatoes, rice and what ever else clean carbs the DFAC has.

[IBdmfkr]

I'm not familiar with what's in MRP's so I can't comment on that.

If you can stand eggwhites eat them a few times a day I've ate up to 30eggwhites a day consistantly before just to see how it would affect my body, they are a GREAT source of clean protein, kinda like eating fish IMO.

[toyo92]

i feel like an idiot for asking this, but raw or cooked? (30x egg whites)

and MRP's ususally have about 40(+/-5)g of protein, around 300 or so calories, vitamins and practically nil on the fat as far as carbs, thatd be the reason for the loading of oats as well as to slow down the rapid absorption of the protein)

[l2elapse]

i feel like an idiot for asking this, but raw or cooked? (30x egg whites)

and MRP's ususally have about 40(+/-5)g of protein, around 300 or so calories, vitamins and practically nil on the fat as far as carbs, thatd be the reason for the loading of oats as well as to slow down the rapid absorption of the protein)

if they are pasteurized you can eat them raw, if not you have to cook them

[IBdmfkr]

I always eat my food, I don't drink it.. Stays with you longer leading to better utilization of the macronutrients..

Just my opinion ofcourse.

[swing lo]

^ I can see your point on that!