Cut Diet, thoughts?

[Jiesel]

Just trying to get a general opinion on how much work this needs for cutting for the next 4-5 months, then maintaining....

This will be an example of my daily schedule, my workout days are everything but Sat and Sun, my rest days (Carlories)

7:45 - Low Fat Yog (150) or Apple Sauce (110) w/ water
8:15 - 30 Mins of Cardio, 15 Mins of Abdominal
9:00 - NO Shotgun (108) and Banana (116) w/ water followed by my weight training routine.
10:30 - Get home from gym, ON Whey Protein (120) w/ Tuna (150) w/ water
2:00 - 1 Chicken Breast (110), Apple (90) w/ water
6:00 - Kirkland Weight Loss Shake (230)
9:00 - Will vary greatley but likely Steak, Brown Rice, Green Veg. (500-800) w/ water

Thats on average my daily schedule, sleep from 10pm-7:45am....Total of approx 1500-2000 Calories a day...Need much work? Im sure there will be a late night snack of Sugar Free Jello or a SF Ice pop here and there when Im feelin stressed. Im basically trying to maintain a low card diet with 1 cheat day a week. My biggest downfall will be that once a month I go out with the friends and consume 10-12 beers.

[Jiesel]

Just wanted to throw out there that this is only a sample not a day to day....I'v purchased low sodium peanuts, rice cakes, south beach protein bars, oatmeal.....plus stocked the fridge with huge amounts of chicken, steak, and meats, eggs as well

[Johny-too-small]

I dont know where to start. Your diet is terrible. Good luck holding onto any muscle with those foods. You need fat to burn fat, bro. Forget the shakes, fruit, and protein bars. Start eating clean, whole foods. With your current layout, you'll lose very little fat and a lot of muscle. Good Luck.

[Jiesel]

Well I expected that. Most of the people on the boards responde quite negativley, I thought people were here to learn, not to get flamed right? So add advice. I'v read through the stickys and other posts to get the diet together. I thought there would be plenty of fats in the low carb foods and meats I was going to be eating, plus the shakes. Again this is a sample, other days I'll be having egg whites and meats for breakfast, this simply happens to be the way I laid out my diet for tommorrow. I expect to lose some muscle, dont you always lose strength and muscle to an extent when cuting?

[Johny-too-small]

Well I expected that. Most of the people on the boards responde quite negativley, I thought people were here to learn, not to get flamed right? So add advice. I'v read through the stickys and other posts to get the diet together. I thought there would be plenty of fats in the low carb foods and meats I was going to be eating, plus the shakes. Again this is a sample, other days I'll be having egg whites and meats for breakfast, this simply happens to be the way I laid out my diet for tommorrow. I expect to lose some muscle, dont you always lose strength and muscle to an extent when cuting?

I was not flaming you. Your diet is just that bad. No, you have not researched very much because there is no where on this board that it recommends that you take weight loss shakes and apple sauce to cut. And I did give you some advice, but Im not going to lay out a diet for you. Good luck.

[IBdmfkr]

Well I expected that. Most of the people on the boards responde quite negativley, I thought people were here to learn, not to get flamed right? Let more than one person respond before you make assumptions. So add advice. I'v read through the stickys and other posts to get the diet together. I thought there would be plenty of fats in the low carb foods and meats I was going to be eating, plus the shakes. Again this is a sample, other days I'll be having egg whites and meats for breakfast, this simply happens to be the way I laid out my diet for tommorrow. Don't start substituting foods until you know how to properly sub out macros that are comprable to each other. I expect to lose some muscle, dont you always lose strength and muscle to an extent when cuting?
Not if done properly and slowly, most ppl rush this process and make drastic changes to their diets which cause the above mentioned things to happen. Take it slow and make small adjustments, especially when you're unexperienced and don't already know how to expect your body to react

The diet:

Just trying to get a general opinion on how much work this needs for cutting for the next 4-5 months, then maintaining....

This will be an example of my daily schedule, my workout days are everything but Sat and Sun, my rest days (Carlories)

7:45 - Low Fat Yog (150) or Apple Sauce (110) w/ water You need a form of protein here and some med/low GI carbs like oatmeal/wheat bread/whole wheat bagel etc..8:15 - 30 Mins of Cardio, 15 Mins of Abdominal
9:00 - NO Shotgun (108) and Banana (116) w/ water followed by my weight training routine. This is o.k. but I'd drop the banana as the extra carbs aren't needed it you eat a proper breakfast at 7:45 and it'll probably hinder the absorbtion of the NO Shotgun.
10:30 - Get home from gym, ON Whey Protein (120) w/ Tuna (150) w/ water You need some carbs in this PWO shake to help replenish glycogen stores, Try oats here or another type of carbohydrates, approx 40-60grams should work well.2:00 - 1 Chicken Breast (110), Apple (90) w/ water
6:00 - Kirkland Weight Loss Shake (230) DO NOT wait until 6pm to eat again, you must try and eat every 3hr-4hrs max to keep your metabolism burning hot, try a high protein/moderate carb meal here (40-50grams protein + 20-30 carbs from good wholefood sources) Drop the shake.
9:00 - Will vary greatley but likely Steak, Brown Rice, Green Veg. (500-800) w/ water I personally like to eat a fattier meat like steak/salmon/pork loin/lamb etc with green fiberous veggies before bed, the other carbs aren't necessary in this meal and will hinder fatloss in some individuals.

Thats on average my daily schedule, sleep from 10pm-7:45am....Total of approx 1500-2000 Calories a day...Need much work? Im sure there will be a late night snack of Sugar Free Jello or a SF Ice pop here and there when Im feelin stressed. Im basically trying to maintain a low card diet with 1 cheat day a week. My biggest downfall will be that once a month I go out with the friends and consume 10-12 beers. This will hinder your gains quite a bit, I'd suggest trying to cut it back to a few beers rather than getting trashed, kinda defeats the whole purpose of cutting fat if you're gonna go out and drink a whole days calories in one night.

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Hope this helps a bit, I'd make some changes if I were you and repost.

[Jiesel]

Johnny - Sorry kinda Just get a bit ticked when people have nothing positive to add....obviously Im posting here because I have less knowledge on the topic then most. If I felt I knew It all and was confident I would have done what I felt was right without puting my diet up for review. I'm not taking the shake to lose weight (It's not some Jenny craig type of shake). It's got tons of protein and tons of tons of vitamins, I'm using that as a meal replacement as It is hard for me to get good foods during work hours 12pm-8pm.

IB - exactly what I was looking for A+ on the critique, everything you said made sense. For the 7:45 I'll add a whole weat toast with natural peanut butter.
As for the post cardio meal, pre workout I was worried about taking the NO on a somewhat empty stomach after 30 mins of cardio. But If you think thats best I will try that.
For the PWO added in the shake what kind of Oats do I get and will throwing that in the whey shake work? Just plain big Oats with the pilgrim on the box? haha
I guess I'll add in a can of tuna around 5pm after the 2pm meal. Thanks!

[Johny-too-small]

Youre cool bro. Trust me, i write harsher than I am trying to come across. PM me if you need any help.

[IBdmfkr]

I didn't realize you were doing cardio before your training, that's a no-no. Do 30mins of cardio PWO before your shake. Add in the 1-minute quaker oats (they mix better) and drink it down. 1cup dry should work well.

[Jiesel]

Thanks Jonny

IB, yea I talked with my partner today and we agreed to do cardio after lifting because of feeling somewhat fatigued for our workout. Were switching that around...thanks for all the advice by the way!