Carbs PPWO in cutting diet

[wakatak87]

So exactly how important is it to have rice or oatmeal an hour or so after you are done working out and had your PWO shake? Ive seen lots of diets that dont have them that get OK"d by people. They kind of seem like carbs that one could do without to me, and I kind of have trouble keeping my carbs low because I strongly believe in a human eating his fruit.


BTW...whats the consensus for pro\fat\carb percent of total calorie intake when cutting? Is it 40\30\30?

P.S...anyone know how the hell to turn off the search shortcuts for firefox? Hence the quotes instead of apostophe and backward slashes.

Ah yes...another thing I have trouble with keeping my carbs low is I cant get the tuna down without putting it on a sandwich. What do you all add to that nasty smelling can? Mayo?

[Prada]

Well there are a few factors.
1)Depends on what exactly your PWO shake consists of.
2)Some Carbs in you PWO meal should be included.
3)How do the rest of your macros look like?

Personally the only way Id contemplate not having carbs if I have met all my marco needs already and that it is the last meal of the day, meaning if I train very late.

I also agree with having some fruits is beneficial, its nice to fulfill your macros but its also good to meet your "micros" for other needs.

I cannot stand the taste of tuna, hence I rinse my tuna and cook it, yes cook it with some diced onions and hint of olive oil. The offensive taste of tuna is cut by 75%, IMHO. Then I eat it with brown rice.

[wakatak87]

Hmm well in my case...I guess i shouldnt even call it a shake. Its just light yogurt (12g sugar, I also believe in calcium) mixed with 30g or so of whey to get 40g total protein. Then I eat an apple with it.

And I really dont know how many carbs I need, hence why I asked the thing about the percentage of calories. But then again...I dont even know how many calories I need...where can I determine stuff like this?

[Prada]

From the stickies which provides the following link
http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/
Just plug in the stats and itll aproximate the needed macronutrients
Rememeber its just a guide

[wakatak87]

holy cow how can that be even close to right...340 grams of protein for a 167 pound person, and only 100 grams carbs? That seems like a useless amount of protein to me...and seriously look at what they want for carbs...
40g oatmeal for breakfast,
40 from rice hour before WO,
20g yogurt comes to 100 already.

When I still wanted 26g banana, 24g apple, 10g carrots, and some bread. That just doesnt sound right! I know its just a guide...but how can I be expected to follow that at all. 340 grams of protein???

[Prada]

There is something wrong in the calculation. What is your height, weight and age?

[wakatak87]

6 foot 1 (73 inches) 167 pounds, 19. I do cardio 4 times a week and workout 4 times a week, so I looked at "moderately active". Supposedly 340g protein, 100g carbs.

the 50/35/15 ratio thing is what seems to be messed up. That protein would mostly get stored as fat Im pretty sure,

[Prada]

What you should be getting approximately.
Pro Fat Carbs
296 92 89

Id start with carbs in the 100-150 range and gradually cut from week to week if needed. The protein should be high but anywhere between 220-300 grams should be sufficient. Personally I think 250 should suffice. A little extra protein will not hurt you. The variable you should be more concerned about is the carbs.
The last thing you would want is your body to become catabolic.
Just curious why do you want to cut if youre 167lbs?

[wakatak87]

My arms are big enough and defined enough already, but my stomach is seriously a pot belly. It looks like a 40 year old gave me his beer belly. Im one of those guys that people thinks is buff when wearing a t-shirt, but then I take my shirt off...and my stomach sticks way the heck out there. When I flex, I have a somewhat defined 4 pack with no lower abs whatsoever. When I dont flex, I have the nasty pot belly. So I care a lot more about fixing that than I do getting even bigger arms and a stronger back right now. Its really gross and depressing to me, but I dont even know how to fix it because of so much dissent on the internet. For now Im doing 50 mins on an elliptical at 75% mhr 5 days a week, while doing a pretty clean diet of oatmeal, rice, fruit, turkey burgers, tuna, yogurt, almonds, chicken breast, garbanzo beans, carrots, spinach, lettuce, and cucumbers.

Even more important than losing fat right now (although maybe they are the same thing) is decreasing the DIFFERENCE between when I flex vs dont flex.

[Markosterone]

cardio and diet it the way to go... combined with situps or something equal to get your stomach(abs) hard will probebly do the trick.

try it out!

GL