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    Any ideas ?

    On how I could hit my chest harder but avoid putting so much stress on my shoulder joints ?

    Here is the thing, whenever I do chest press movements, my shoulder joints get so sore that i have to stop before my pecs are fully fatigued, I mean, I can do more reps but my shoulder joints give out on me before my pecs so I am not hitting them as hard as I can. Understand ?

    I was thinking I could just do more sets but less reps and stop way before failure. Something like this:

    instead of lets say: 200x15, 225x10, 225x8, 250x3, 250x2, 225x8
    maybe try: 200lbx10, 225x5,225x5,250x1,250x1,225x5,225x5,225x3,225x3

    Does anyone think that would make sense or could work effectively? I have to try but just wanted to see if anyone else maybe has some ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    On how I could hit my chest harder but avoid putting so much stress on my shoulder joints ?

    Here is the thing, whenever I do chest press movements, my shoulder joints get so sore that i have to stop before my pecs are fully fatigued, I mean, I can do more reps but my shoulder joints give out on me before my pecs so I am not hitting them as hard as I can. Understand ?

    I was thinking I could just do more sets but less reps and stop way before failure. Something like this:

    instead of lets say: 200x15, 225x10, 225x8, 250x3, 250x2, 225x8
    maybe try: 200lbx10, 225x5,225x5,250x1,250x1,225x5,225x5,225x3,225x3

    Does anyone think that would make sense or could work effectively? I have to try but just wanted to see if anyone else maybe has some ideas.
    Why so many. I do a similar thing as I have a Left Rotator Cuff issue.

    Start with Bench

    I do 25x60kg then 2x90KG then 2x100KG then 3x110KG then 25x60KG

    The last set is a fvcking killer !!!

    I am pumped to the max and thats my first exercise

    I then go to Incline BP but leave out the 25 rep warm up set if did in Flat BP but the rest stays the same, weight is obviously different. Then I go to a fly, same sets as Incline BP then I finish with Dips.
    I guarantee you when you have a shower you wont be able wash your hair !!!!

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    Hey Skull I just realized we both joined in the same month and year and we are only a couple of hundred posts apart. You want to get married ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Hey Skull I just realized we both joined in the same month and year and we are only a couple of hundred posts apart. You want to get married ?

    I have been hoping you would ask me for the longest.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Why so many. I do a similar thing as I have a Left Rotator Cuff issue.

    I have a left acromioclavicualr problem but it is almost gone it seems.

    So do you experince the same problem ever like as I described ?

    Do you stop long before failure on any of these sets? Thats the thing is I cant fully reach failure or my joints get painfully sore.

    Cool, you get a good pump out of it too? Thats the thing man, it pisses me off, I cant even get a good pump in my pecs and I used to be able to swell them the **** UP after my chest routines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    I have a left acromioclavicualr problem but it is almost gone it seems.

    So do you experince the same problem ever like as I described ?

    Do you stop long before failure on any of these sets? Thats the thing is I cant fully reach failure or my joints get painfully sore.

    Cool, you get a good pump out of it too? Thats the thing man, it pisses me off, I cant even get a good pump in my pecs and I used to be able to swell them the **** UP after my chest routines.
    No I dont have a problem with my joints. And the funny thing is since my last cycle where I used Deca the Rotator has improved 100%. If I was you I would go and see a Physiotherapist and see if they can pin it down to something

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    I would have the same feeling skull wit the shoulder crap.. I am not a supreme powerlifter nor do i ever do 15 reps on a chest exercise..But I have found that using lightweight dbs at home after my gym exercises (like while im yakkin on here)has helped a ton.. Simple standing lightweight db exstensions and other upper body exercises wit very light db at home have caused me to have less probs wit the big weight at the gym..

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbat
    I would have the same feeling skull wit the shoulder crap.. I am not a supreme powerlifter nor do i ever do 15 reps on a chest exercise..But I have found that using lightweight dbs at home after my gym exercises (like while im yakkin on here)has helped a ton.. Simple standing lightweight db exstensions and other upper body exercises wit very light db at home have caused me to have less probs wit the big weight at the gym..

    yea it just sucks though because light weights dont seem to feel as good as heavier weights, like they also dont hit my chest as hard either. thanks for your input man, keep it comin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    No I dont have a problem with my joints. And the funny thing is since my last cycle where I used Deca the Rotator has improved 100%. If I was you I would go and see a Physiotherapist and see if they can pin it down to something

    nandrolone has helped me sooooo much after surgery, its one of the reason why I like it so much but I also can only handle a small amount it for some reason.

    I haev an appt with my ortho to take x rays etc etc. If I can fix this, I will be so happy....

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    I've never fully recoverd from a torn rotator cuff..I feel your pain brotha! Barbell bench hurt mine worse than dumbs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hackamaniac
    I've never fully recoverd from a torn rotator cuff..I feel your pain brotha! Barbell bench hurt mine worse than dumbs..
    was just gona suggest that... i cant do barbell presses do to my right shoulder, so i have learned that i can do incline db presses and they dont hurt nearly as bad and i get a good pump using the DBs

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    how far do you lower the bar on pressing movements?

    i used to make the bar touch my chest, and constantly had shoulder pain

    i now stop the bar about 4-5 inches above my chest, still get a great pump, still making decent gains, and my shoulders rarely give me any stick. had surgery on my AC joint in 2004 and its cool as shit now

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    I think barbell (Maybe dumbell) incline presses cause the least amount of irritation.

    I usually almost touch my chest adn dont lock out at all going up.

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    i have shoulder issues too, and thus have problems getting pumped in the pecs area too, and pushing the muscle to its limit before joint pain sets in ... to help that problem, i work heavier weight with lower reps on bench or inclines, but between sets of those, i do sets of between 25-50 pushups with palms on the edge of a low stage in my gym's aerobic room(for longer range of movement) ... i get incredible pumps doing that, really fatigues the muscle, and for some reason the pushups dont cause much shoulder pain either ...

    only 300mgs a week of deca has made a huge difference with joint aches ...
    Last edited by gym lord; 02-18-2007 at 12:07 PM.

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