weak/damaged tendons?

[Fastcav]

I went as heavy as I could on all my work outs last week and my whole area around my left pec, shoulder and even on my back is really sore and I get an uncomfortable pain when I move that arm aross my body or almost any direction. Its not muscle soreness or fatigue, I have poked, flexed and massaged my chest, shoulder and upper back and they are not sore what so ever. Could I have over work my tendons or something like that? Currenly im on the 6th week of 250mg test E and 300mg nandroline every 5 days. This is my 3rd cycle and have never had a problem like this before.

Thanks in advance guys.

[LeadPencil]

when you jump on a cycle your muscle growth is accellerated not your tendon or ligaments. So if you start lifting real heavy your tendons and what not may not be strong enough to lift that weight.

[Fastcav]

Yes I know that. But I was just wondering if anyone has had this happen to them before. Would like to know that it actually is my tendons and not something stupid like I moved the wrong way or did something weird and im just sore now from it. Anything I can do to streghten them or any recomendations for something I could take to help?

[duramaxedge]

first cycle huh? who helped you with your dosages??

[duramaxedge]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Avoiding-A...ning&id=298202


work your rotator cuff

[Fastcav]

3rd cycle but one of my dumb ass friends that said he knew what he was doing set up them up. Thanks for the info, I'll look into those rotator cuff exercises.

[Cat316]

How long has it been...I screwed up the tendons in my left wrist so when I do bi's and curl its bad...went to the doc and said dont lift for 6-8 weeks...that was 1 1/2 months ago I live on advil lol

[guest589745]

Currenly im on the 6th week of 250mg test E and 300mg nandroline every 5 days.

I would run that dose but every 3 days, no longer. Though at that dose the nandrolone should be helping still but those times are not the most optimal.

Just listen to your body other than that man.

[guest589745]

Also avoid NSAI and other medications, just dal with the pain naturally. meds liek ibuprofen will slow your injuries recovery and will not help in the logn run but to alleviate pain, and if you can;t handle pain, well, you need to learn how to. Pain is pain for a reason.

Get adequate rest, use proper form and try some other supps, see if that helps.

[Fastcav]

Its working itself out. I don't think its the rotator cuff. I didn't have any pain till Sunday and I worked shoulders Friday. Did some standing millitary presses so im thinking if it was my rotator cuff it would have started hurting sooner. Either way, took the day off today and going to get back to it tomorrow, if I still am having pain I'll just go a little light this week and try and get back at it full swing next week.

Thanks for cycle advise skull I'll give that a try and see if I notice better results. I have definatly gotten stronger on this cycle but didn't put on as much mass as I had hoped. Diet and everything is pretty good, I splurg maybe once or twice a week on fast food but thus far I've gained about 10lbs of lean muscle mass. Was 178 at the start of this cycle im about 188-189 now at 8.7% BF, just had it tested in one of those bodpods at my gym.

Well thanks again everyone for the help.

[rhed]

stretches help a whole lot. Try 10 mins before training and another after. Especially wrist stretches. If you don't have elbow pain yet do it. And also try and start using fish oil, Glucosamine, and Chondroitin in you're daily diet and regularly. If you start now it'll take about a month for the supps to kick in.

[topnotch]

stretches help a whole lot. Try 10 mins before training and another after. Especially wrist stretches. If you don't have elbow pain yet do it. And also try and start using fish oil, Glucosamine, and Chondroitin in you're daily diet and regularly. If you start now it'll take about a month for the supps to kick in.

I dont recommend stretching pre-workout. It's been proven that this can weaken your supporting muscles and tendons. You need to just do light warm-ups with full range, and work your way up to weights...for example on bench, if your gonna work out w/ 300, dont start w/ 225, then jump heavy...warm up w/ 135, then maybe 185, then maybe a couple w/ 225...i've found this most helpful with all exercises even.

[The Legend]

i do exactly what you say topnotch. right to the exact weight for bench. especially with my past injuries to ac joint and rotator cuffs. thats the only way i can get through it is by warming up

[cj1capp]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Avoiding-A...ning&id=298202


work your rotator cuff

nice read.

[rhed]

I dont recommend stretching pre-workout. It's been proven that this can weaken your supporting muscles and tendons. You need to just do light warm-ups with full range, and work your way up to weights...for example on bench, if your gonna work out w/ 300, dont start w/ 225, then jump heavy...warm up w/ 135, then maybe 185, then maybe a couple w/ 225...i've found this most helpful with all exercises even.

I'd like to read about this proof. Can you send the link. Thanks.. Anyway here's what the peps at DC training has to say about stretching. We all know what's DC training right...


Extreme Stretching

by Jason Mueller


One must temper their newfound strength and appetite with the wisdom to apply
them properly, we’re certainly not advocating that one lift weights to the
point of injury or that an endomorph stuff themselves with everything in
sight. Both Dogg and I are major advocates of stretching prior to working
out and MORE IMPORTANTLY STRETCHING TO THE POINT OF THRESHOLDS AFTER working out. I (Meuller) even more so after having torn a triceps and having 200 cc’s of pus removed from a bicep in May of this year. At a bodyweight of over 310 lbs, I am the very definition of “muscle-bound” and find it very difficult to perform actions that most people take for granted (like tying my shoes, and I’m not joking). As such, I am routinely stretched every week by another trainer to try and maintain some modicum of flexibility, and stretch prior to and while working out to avoid further injuries (or exacerbate the ones I currently have). I happily take my hat off to Dogg and give credit where credit is due, the guy is an amazing trainer and showed a young and cocky
Jason Meuller what hardcore was really all about back in ’94. He believes like Jon Parillo did, that "extreme stretching" directly after a bodypart is trained is key for recuperation, recovery, and a primer for growth via fascial stretching and maybe even hyperplasia (more on that in a future article). He’s outlined a series of stretches that he finds extremely effective at both avoiding injuries and adding size during cycles. These
includes the weights he uses, which readers will obviously have to adjust (more than likely down) according to their own strength levels. Every extreme stretch is done right after that body part has been trained.

[KAEW44]

Many sports articles back in the day used to say stretch before and after training, then in the past recent years articles started to say not to stretch before because you will put your muscles beyond the renge of motion you will use in the training, so they recomended stretching afterwards.

Many people misunderstood and thought that meant "dont warm up" and they ended up getting more injures!! The research tells us that we should warm up as much as we can and then when we start training we should slowly work our way into the desired work capacity, with bodybuilding this could mean a warmup light set and then your main 3 sets or so while stepping up the weight each time, maxing in the last.
With sports this meant start training in your sport lightly and step up into your desired level, it was specific to martial arts which i do so it said start shadow boxing and then hit the bag with low light kicks and then as you warm up more start kicking higher and punching harder and so on.

Then after your workout when you are warmest, do all your stretching!

[topnotch]

Yes, I said to warm-up a lot, but do not stretch...I didn't mean to not warm-up...I dont have the exact reference, just read many studies that are published in Muscular Development, and also just the way I feel personally if I've stretched before work-outs.

[rhed]

Anyway Fastcav here you go a few links about stetching...:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search