whats dnp?

[antvel]

hi
can anyone tell me what dnp stands for ?? and its use? is it like t3?

[Haro3]

dinitrophenol......its an explosive....a pesticide.....a dye used to make the color yellow......ummmm its pretty much death in a pill lol are u plannin on runnin it?

[Dizz28]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199885

[Haro3]

fat loss drug which raises body temp

false... doesnt raise body temp at all

[Dude-Man]

In small amounts it's an amazing fat burner. In large amounts, it's an amazing poison. Just like clenbutrol in that sense.

[Dizz28]

false... doesnt raise body temp at all

it does...

it kicks your metabolism into a crazy over drive. Read the profile I posted. It's all there.

[Haro3]

it does...

it kicks your metabolism into a crazy over drive. Read the profile I posted. It's all there.

it does not raise ur body temperature at all. if your core temperature increases then somethings wrong.....yea it boosts metabolism i know this thats why you get the "hot" sensation but your body temperature is not actually increased.....i dont want this guy taking it and taking his body temp thinking it should be high cuz it should not go above normal......

[Dude-Man]

false... doesnt raise body temp at all

It most definitely CAN (read, does) raise your body temperature. But that's not HOW it works. It's very common to run a low grade fever while you're taking dnp.

[Haro3]

It most definitely CAN (read, does) raise your body temperature. But that's not HOW it works. It's very common to run a low grade fever while you're taking dnp.

it is not supposed to raise ur core temp....if it does then i'd lower ur dose as its not a characteristic of normal consumption. i dont care what the profile says this is coming from my doctor who monitored me while i ran dnp and she is knowledgable on aas and dnp so i will take everything she says over the steroid profiles as she has put in significant amounts of research

[Dizz28]

Aren't you a med student, Dude?

Anyhow, everything I've read about DNP says that it does raise your body temp to a degree. I've never used it and never will. I would rather diet then put something like that in my body.

Just think of it like this: When you burn fat, calories, whatever your body temperature will raise

[Mealticket]

Aren't you a med student, Dude?

Anyhow, everything I've read about DNP says that it does raise your body temp to a degree. I've never used it and never will. I would rather diet then put something like that in my body.

Just think of it like this: When you burn fat, calories, whatever your body temperature will raise

Thats becasue of increased movement.
You skin temp will raise, thats heat escapting but your core remp should not raise.
It's not common to run a low grade fever while on dnp.
SOME people do, but it's not common.

The fat being oxadized by the DNP is what triggers heat release, just like ANYTHING in the world, a byproduct of energy being spent is heat.
But your core temp, should not raise while on DNP if you are running it properly and staying hydrated

[Dude-Man]

Aren't you a med student, Dude?

Anyhow, everything I've read about DNP says that it does raise your body temp to a degree. I've never used it and never will. I would rather diet then put something like that in my body.

Just think of it like this: When you burn fat, calories, whatever your body temperature will raise

Yeah, i am a med student. I'm also ABD on a PhD in molecular biology. And yeah, I've used DNP and taken rectal temps while i was doing it. And yeah, i ran about 100 degrees for two weeks while on 200mg/day. It'd spike to about 101.5 after a big carb meal.

[Dude-Man]

Thats becasue of increased movement.
You skin temp will raise, thats heat escapting but your core remp should not raise.
It's not common to run a low grade fever while on dnp.
SOME people do, but it's not common.

The fat being oxadized by the DNP is what triggers heat release, just like ANYTHING in the world, a byproduct of energy being spent is heat.
But your core temp, should not raise while on DNP if you are running it properly and staying hydrated

el-oh-el.

DNP destroys the proton gradient across mitochondrial membranes. That eliminates the mechanism through which the cell produces most of its ATP. Instead of producing ATP, the energy of the proton gradient is lost as heat. Cells counteract the lowered yields of ATP by oxidising more stored reserves such as carbohydrates and fat. Guess what that means? Even more heat. Guess where these reactions are taking place? Hint: it's not in your skin.


I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you guys sure are stubborn.

[Mealticket]

what's your point med student?
In most cases it doeasn't increase core temp.

..but i'll give you props for sticking a thermometer up your ass.

[Dizz28]

el-oh-el.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you guys sure are stubborn.

Very true, people don't want to listen or give up thier opinions even though they don't make sense at all.

Your skin is responsable for elimination of heat from your body....I don't see how your skin can be hot but not your core temperature stay normal. Even someone with no medical knowledge could see the problem in that.

Meal, you contradict yourself in almost every sentence you write. Please stop.

Dizz

[Dude-Man]

My point is that it DOES increase body temperature. If you want to talk "core" temperature, let me know where exactly the "core" is, and how you're measuring it's temperature.

[Dizz28]

My point is that it DOES increase body temperature. If you want to talk "core" temperature, let me know where exactly the "core" is, and how you're measuring it's temperature.

Dude, it's not worth the argument anymore. Let him think what he wants to think. Everybody and every article ever written on it is wrong and he's right. Let it be at that....

Dizz

[Dude-Man]

Dude, it's not worth the argument anymore. Let him think what he wants to think. Everybody and every article ever written on it is wrong and he's right. Let it be at that....

Dizz

You're probably right, but i feel it's one of our obligations on the board to stop the spread of misinformation.

[Dizz28]

You're probably right, but i feel it's one of our obligations on the board to stop the spread of misinformation.

I think you did a good job of explaining it. If someone wants to continue to argue for no reason then it's no longer your problem.

[cj1capp]

magic 32 where are you?

[Mealticket]

el-oh-el.

DNP destroys the proton gradient across mitochondrial membranes. That eliminates the mechanism through which the cell produces most of its ATP. Instead of producing ATP, the energy of the proton gradient is lost as heat. Cells counteract the lowered yields of ATP by oxidising more stored reserves such as carbohydrates and fat. Guess what that means? Even more heat. Guess where these reactions are taking place? Hint: it's not in your skin.


I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you guys sure are stubborn.

Just to let you know it's an electron gradient, techinically you could consider it a proton gradient but it's the passing of electrons that end up producing ATP.
Producing more energy doesn't necessarly mean increasing your core body temp.
If oxidation and redutction of carbs and fats actually increased a persons core body temp then a person who was in diabetic ketoacidosis would also have an elevated core body temperature.
If your core temp increases with the use of DNP to the point of a fever(101.5) then, you may have a congenital metabolic abnormality.
It makes sense to be "hot" after a carb meal but that is different than an actual fever.

[HORSE~]

This thread is a good read for you guys debating body temp and dnp....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=285870

[Conciliator]

it is not supposed to raise ur core temp....if it does then i'd lower ur dose as its not a characteristic of normal consumption. i dont care what the profile says this is coming from my doctor who monitored me while i ran dnp and she is knowledgable on aas and dnp so i will take everything she says over the steroid profiles as she has put in significant amounts of research

Oh, wow. Sorry, but your doctor is completely wrong. DNP increases the production of heat in a dose-dependant manner. Go read why UCP1 in the mitochondria of brown adipose tissue is thermogenic... it's from uncoupling, which is the exact same thing DNP does.

DNP is a pure thermogenic... you bet it increases temperature. Geez.

[Dude-Man]

This thread is a good read for you guys debating body temp and dnp....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=285870

I like magic. Honestly, I do. But quite frankly, he doesn't present any evidence that refutes what i've been saying here. I have no problems changing my views on things... when there's sufficient proof.

[Conciliator]

The fat being oxadized by the DNP is what triggers heat release, just like ANYTHING in the world, a byproduct of energy being spent is heat.

No, this not what "triggers heat release". It's mitochondrial uncoupling (the inefficiency that DNP creates) that produces the heat.

But your core temp, should not raise while on DNP if you are running it properly and staying hydrated

This is something I completely agree with. If you're taking so much DNP that your temperature is above the normal range (hitting 99.2+), you're taking too much, regardless of the dosage. LOTS of guys take too much when it comes to DNP. It's surprising that desipte all the warnings surrounding DNP, most guys do dumbass "inferno cycles" and take their dosages way too high. They then bitch about the side effects they essentially chose via their dosage.

[Conciliator]

Yeah, i am a med student. I'm also ABD on a PhD in molecular biology. And yeah, I've used DNP and taken rectal temps while i was doing it. And yeah, i ran about 100 degrees for two weeks while on 200mg/day. It'd spike to about 101.5 after a big carb meal.

It sounds like you're particularly sensitive to DNP. This is one of the reasons that DNP was discontinued. Differnet people respond to a given dosage with a lot of variation. Obviously, if you followed the typical recommendations and went up to 400mg/day+, you'd find yourself with some serious problems. You should try running 100mg/day with a lower doesed product like P sells. I bet you'd still have a significant increase in metabolic rate and your tamperature would stay in the normal range, making it much safer.

[Conciliator]

el-oh-el.

DNP destroys the proton gradient across mitochondrial membranes. That eliminates the mechanism through which the cell produces most of its ATP. Instead of producing ATP, the energy of the proton gradient is lost as heat. Cells counteract the lowered yields of ATP by oxidising more stored reserves such as carbohydrates and fat. Guess what that means? Even more heat. Guess where these reactions are taking place? Hint: it's not in your skin.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you guys sure are stubborn.

Just to clarify, DNP doesn't "destroy" the proton gradient and "eliminate" oxidative phosphorylation. Rather, it decreases the electrochemical potential of the gradient and uncouples oxidation from phosphorylation in a dose dependant manner. This is important to understand. If it destroyed the gradient and eliminated oxidative phosphorylation, cellular respiration would cease and you'd die from lack of ATP.