test. propinate?

[Watchout]

How effective is test. propionate taken alone? If so what dose should it be taken at to work?

[king6]

How effective is test. propionate taken alone? If so what dose should it be taken at to work?

Stats.

[Watchout]

5'9 175lb

[pip_squeek]

500mg a week is usually a good dose

[fLgAtOr]

How effective is test. propionate taken alone? If so what dose should it be taken at to work?

Welcome to the board.

Test prop is just as effective as any other test. Do you have any previous cycle experience?

[jdm95lude]

Yeah I would say 500mg 10wks for first cycle. If this is your first. Im assuming.

[Watchout]

No experience. any suggestions would be great. I have done a lot of research but would like to get the information from all of you guys.

[king6]

Test prop should be shot every day, not once a week. 500/week would be a lot for a first cycle. I say start with 50mg/ed, which is 350/week. Remember that prop contains more test per mg than test e or test c, because of the shorter ester.

[Watchout]

Is that 75mg or 100mg? ed or eod?

[king6]

How long have you been lifting? What is your BF %?

[jdm95lude]

Well like i said.

Yeah I would say 500mg 10wks for first cycle. If this is your first. Im assuming.

But you need to do more research so you can understand how these compounds work. You dont want to put something in your body that your not sure on how it works do you... do more research man good luck

[Watchout]

O okay thats what I have read. thanks.
now what kind of effects should expect?

[pip_squeek]

test prop is fairly painful i hope you are aware of that. i would go with 50-75mg ed but if its painful then eod

[Watchout]

I have lifted for seven years. my body fat is around 14%.

[jdm95lude]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199851

read

[king6]

Yeah I would say 500mg 10wks for first cycle. If this is your first. Im assuming.

10 weeks is a long time for test prop, prop is usually run for 6-8 weeks. People run test e or test c for 10-12 weeks, because is takes 4-6 weeks to kick in. Prop kicks in around days 5-7, so you are making gains pretty fast, and don't need to run it for a long cycle.

[king6]

test prop is fairly painful i hope you are aware of that. i would go with 50-75mg ed but if its painful then eod

Depends on the brand, I am using prop now that is totally painless. It just depends on what the test is suspended in.

[jdm95lude]

10 weeks is a long time for test prop, prop is usually run for 6-8 weeks. People run test e or test c for 10-12 weeks, because is takes 4-6 weeks to kick in. Prop kicks in around days 5-7, so you are making gains pretty fast, and don't need to run it for a long cycle.

My 1st cycle was test P for 10wks and I saw gains all the way until the last shot. But everyone is diff.

[fLgAtOr]

Is that 75mg or 100mg? ed or eod?

King just said, 50mg everyday...which equates to 350mg per week.

Come on bro...you said you researched, but then you ask what kind of effects you can expect.

Let's start from the top:

What do you want to acomplish?

[king6]

My 1st cycle was test P for 10wks and I saw gains all the way until the last shot. But everyone is diff.

If you are still making gains at the end of 8 weeks, then you can keep it going. If you stop making gains at the end of the cycle, then it would be wise to stop.

[Watchout]

I have a 10ml of it right now.

[jdm95lude]

If you are still making gains at the end of 8 weeks, then you can keep it going. If you stop making gains at the end of the cycle, then it would be wise to stop.

Yeah thats what im saying.

[jdm95lude]

I have a 10ml of it right now.

hmm.... I think you need to figure out your goals, and what type of cycle and PCT you are going to do before you even think about sticking. Be smart man.

[fLgAtOr]

I have a 10ml of it right now.

Not enough.

What the concentration per ml?

[Watchout]

100 QV propionat

[king6]

100 QV propionat

There is your first mistake. Buying Mexican gear.

And yeah that is not enough. That is only 1,000mg, you need about 3,000mg for a 6-8 week cycle.

[Watchout]

not sure what the concentration is.

[king6]

not sure what the concentration is.

It's 100mg/ml. Thus the name Prop 100.

[Watchout]

so I need 20ml. and anti estrogens. I wouldnt have dared to start a cycle without a real humans advice haha.

[king6]

so I need 20ml. and anti estrogens. I wouldnt have dared to start a cycle without a real humans advice haha.

I think you need to do more research. Do you know the difference between a SERM and an AI? Do you know what each does and when they should be used?

[Watchout]

selective estrogen receptor modulators
aromatize inhibitor

[JMC]

so I need 20ml. and anti estrogens. I wouldnt have dared to start a cycle without a real humans advice haha.

No dude, you need about 30 ML for a 6-8 week cycle depending on what dose you choose, you will need minimum 30 ML

[king6]

selective estrogen receptor modulators
aromatize inhibitor

Correct, but which ons would you use and for what purpose?

I run armidex @ .25mg/ed, and for PCT it will be clomid and Nolva.

[Watchout]

I already have 10ml. so I need 20ml more is what I meant.

[JMC]

O ok i got ya

[Watchout]

serm blocks estrogen and ai stops androgen from turning into estrogen. am I 50% percent right lol.