Letro... Good or Bad?

[RoadToRecovery]

Ok this is my first post but i am a long time reader. Let me give you alittle background before I get to my question. Im 21 in the military and Ive been working out for about 3 years and Ive done about 3 small cycles none of which Ive done PCT which i regret. Right Now Im on a Deca/Eq stack at 250mg/200mg a week comming down from 500mg/400mg i started with... I have 3 weeks left and shopping around for some PCT. Im looking to do letro for a few weeks but Im looking for some input. what do you guys think? And maybe someone can PM me and point me in a good direction as to where to look.

[x_moe]

well you ran few cycles before and now your running one without test, your gona be shutdown hardcore and will need a hardcore pct, letro itself wont be enough

[RoadToRecovery]

Ok well than what do you recommend and what dose and how long. And when should I start?

[abrick]

Ok well than what do you recommend and what dose and how long. And when should I start?

Letro...if you don't have a test with it, it will completly shut off your sex drive. My gf hated me for it. I took it when I thought i was getting a little gyno about halfway through my cycle. I started with .25mgs on the first day and then .50mgs the next and so on till i was at 2.5mgs a day. Killed the gyno but i noticed some strenght loss. I stopped that after a while and finished off with a dex.

[perfectbeast2001]

letro will work but you may suffer from lower libido while using it. How about aromasin + nolva or Adex + nolva.

[RoadToRecovery]

Well im down to do whatever but i need some guidelines...

[perfectbeast2001]

try reading the anthony roberts PCT protocol in the PCT forum Very good IMO.

[dupa95]

I alway order my pct and have it in hand before i order my cycle. Just my deal

[RoadToRecovery]

Well I would like to order by tomorrow... So any one want to recommend a specific cycle for my background being that Its my first PCT? I read the PCT article... but does it truly matter that I didnt do pct in the past?

My current PCT is projected to be like this...

Day 1: .25mg Letro
Day 2: .50mg
Day 3: .75mg
Day 4: 1.0mg
Day 5: 1.5mg
Day 6: 2.0mg
Day 7: 2.5mg

and than from day 7 to 14 ill do 2.5mg and than knock it down to .50mg from 15 to 21. Im not concerned about my libido because im sure it will disapear but ive read that it will come back after 2 months which I can deal with viagra for 2 months. But thats what I have so far. Any objections? Suggestions? Id truly appreciate it.

[x_moe]

Well I would like to order by tomorrow... So any one want to recommend a specific cycle for my background being that Its my first PCT? I read the PCT article... but does it truly matter that I didnt do pct in the past?

My current PCT is projected to be like this...

Day 1: .25mg Letro
Day 2: .50mg
Day 3: .75mg
Day 4: 1.0mg
Day 5: 1.5mg
Day 6: 2.0mg
Day 7: 2.5mg

and than from day 7 to 14 ill do 2.5mg and than knock it down to .50mg from 15 to 21. Im not concerned about my libido because im sure it will disapear but ive read that it will come back after 2 months which I can deal with viagra for 2 months. But thats what I have so far. Any objections? Suggestions? Id truly appreciate it.

bro your gona have to run a clomid with that, or hcg

[RoadToRecovery]

Ok... So how much? And when should i start.

[RoadToRecovery]

Ok this is what ive come up with....

21 days after last shot I will start this PCT:

First day .25mg of Letro and 60mg of Clomid... and than each day increasing the letro by .25mg until i have reached 2.5 mg while staying at 60mg of clomid the whole time. And then once Ive reached 14 days Ill taper the letro to .5mg and keep it at that until day 21 and then end my PCT.

How does that sound?

[x_moe]

why not just run letro .5mg all the way, and double the dose of your clomid for the first 14 days

[RoadToRecovery]

that sounds like a plan... Ill do that actually... thanks for the input

[AnabolicBoy1981]

Well I would like to order by tomorrow... So any one want to recommend a specific cycle for my background being that Its my first PCT? I read the PCT article... but does it truly matter that I didnt do pct in the past?

My current PCT is projected to be like this...

Day 1: .25mg Letro
Day 2: .50mg
Day 3: .75mg
Day 4: 1.0mg
Day 5: 1.5mg
Day 6: 2.0mg
Day 7: 2.5mg

and than from day 7 to 14 ill do 2.5mg and than knock it down to .50mg from 15 to 21. Im not concerned about my libido because im sure it will disapear but ive read that it will come back after 2 months which I can deal with viagra for 2 months. But thats what I have so far. Any objections? Suggestions? Id truly appreciate it.

thats not a pct. that looks more like a gyno reversol protocal that C bino posted.
First off, youl need more than letro. atleast nolva and vita E, and if you can get it, HCG with.
Second 14 days is to damn short. You need like 30-45 daysthen off for 2 months before running another if needed. If HCG wasnt in both PCTs though you could get away with one month between the PCTs. One pct might be enough, but since you did 3 b4 with no pct, plus you just did deca(which is highly suppresive) you may need two, imo.
Also with the letro, this is just my opinion but i think if anything you should start off with 2.5mg and lesson as you go, for 2 reasones. One, ON PAPER it says letro needs time to build up consistent blood levels, so i say front load it off the bat. Second, you have to taper of letro slowly anyway or overlap it with nolva since letro suppresese estrogen so much that you actually get a rebound if it if you come of too fast. This is why your pct will most likely stretch to the 45 day mark, since you need 30 days of actual pct, and a couple weeks to dwindle of. Or you could just sub the letro for Aromasin(exemestane) and not have that problem, but letro is more cost effective. However if you do the taper with nolva then youl need to buy another bottle of bolva so it evens out i guess. Or you could try just tapering of the letro by itself. so maybe it's look like this:
letro/ nolva/ hcg/ VITA E
day 1-14 2.5mg 20mg 500iu 1000iu
14-21 2mg 20mg 500iu 1000iu
22-30 1.25mg 20mg 1000iu
31-38 .5mg 1000iu
39-45 .25mg 1000iu

If your nipps get sensitive after you stop you may still be rebounding estrogen so you could continue with the letro but spread 2 or 3 days btewen doses for a couple of weeks. also, if out of letro just buy some nolva or adex and taper down with that.
Maybe to avoid complication u should just go with aromasin. That way its 30 days pct, off for 6 weeks then another pct if needed. I have a feeling your gonna need more than one.

[RoadToRecovery]

wow now thats what I was looking for... thanks for the advice... Very Specific...

But If i cant get hcg is there another pct you would recommend?

Also... Ive been reading here that nolva and letro do not play nice with eachother... is there something else i can replace the nolva with?

and the last two lines of the pct... what did you take out?

[RoadToRecovery]

bump....

No luck on HCG... so Im going to go with letro and clomid and Vitamin E.

[RoadToRecovery]

any objections? I can only get whats from ar-r.

[x_moe]

i like aromasin better than letro, but letro and clomid is good

[RoadToRecovery]

Why do you prefer aromasin over letro?

[RoadToRecovery]

And is it recommended to take a fat burner while on pct? If so, what?

[Drummerboy]

jeeze i dont even know where to start - guess i would just say the roberts PCT would work for you - Nolva/HCG/Aromasin

[RoadToRecovery]

Id love to, but i cant get my hands on HCG... only whats available at ar-r.com...

[RoadToRecovery]

Ok im nearing the end of my cycle..

Im going with Letro and clomid...

upward taper to 2.5mg ed of letro for 3 weeks... and 70mg ed of clomid for 3 weeks... 1000 iu of vitamin e ed and clenbuterol... but unsure of dosage as of right now... any suggestions as far as that goes

[RoadToRecovery]

Okk I found it with a little button starting with an S.

[RoadToRecovery]

Any body?

[x_moe]

Any body?

ya wuts up, whats ur question ?