any one used them and had good results?
any one used them and had good results?
Dude go to the supplement forum and read some of the logs and find out for yourselff
...but yes people have/do use them with very good results
My question is this? Now that there illegal why do people still use them??? There more liver toxic than injectables and just as illegal, not to mention to find some good ones that people stock piled its probably going to cost you more money than a decent cycle would anyway? Its basically like doing a Dbol only cycle. I just think its funny, some of my friends wont touch steroids but they will go out of there way to pay $400 for 2 months of 1-AD
Its really NOT like a dbol only cycle because its not d-bol. Its like saying that an anavar alone cycle is "just like" a dbol only cycle.
Anyways if you do about 5 mins of searching online you'll find that its much more available then steroids that have always been illegal and it CAN be much cheaper depending on what your looking for
Also the laws are still hazy on the subject of prohormones so they are still producing the drugs that have been banned by just adding more sh*t to them. Example: trenadrol i believe is still legal, but all it is is superdrol with some supplements like green tea and other shit added to it. Then eventually they'll catch this drug then ban it then it will be reproduced as something else.
I'm not advocating the use of prohormones over injectable steroids but i'm just trying to say they are useful and can be more available then other AAS.
yea if your going to use something thats illegal anyways you might as well do real cycle......m1t, superdrol, phera plex just cuz they WERE legal a year ago doesnt mean that they are any less harmfull than say dbol, winny, var so why not just use those drugs? that have a tendancy to be cheaper AND are guaranteed to work.....personally i hated superdrol and pheraplex, m1t was descent but i think it gave me gyno....i woulda rather ran a dbol only cycle than any of those....
I never said they were any less harmful then other orals. If anything some of them may be more harmful.
I also said that they're probly being used becuase they're more availabe to most people then other AAS that have always been illegal. This includes winny, dbol, var, etc...
That was really the only point i was trying to make.
and i was agreeing with you......
I wasn't trying to say dbol and M1T or 1-AD are the same thing, I was getting to the point that if your going to do something illegal why waste your time on prohormones instead of real gear.
i HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH ANDROSTENEDION AND DHEA. MY OPINION IS THAT PROHORMONES ARE TOTAL S..T. OFFCOURSE IF YOU HAVE MORE PROFOUND KNOWLEDGE IN ENDOCRINOLOGY YOU MIGHT GET THIS IDEA WITHOUT EVEN GIVING THEM A TRY. THE RESULTS WERE DISSAPINTING, BUT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM WAS THE GYNO ANDRO USED TO GIVE ME. THE GYNO WAS MUCH WORSE THAN D-BOL AND TEST HAVE EVER DONE FOR ME. THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS THAT ANDRO CAN TURN INTO ESTROGEN DUE TO AROMATASE ENZIM BEFORE EVEN TURNIN INTO TEST. STAY AWAY FROM THAT BULLSHIT
I took Muscle Maker II got decent gains on it, but I was 19 so I was full of natty test anyway. My friend just took some 1-AD and his back has broke out bad!!! Plus he went 4 weeks without being able to get it up after it was over. I had him get Clomid and Nolva got it working again.
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