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    Jugglers tren,masteron and prop diary - latest update: infection or not??

    Hi guys

    I figured i might just start a diary to get some feedback.

    I'll do all of my listings in mL,kgs and cm. Just so you know.

    I've been cutting for 4 weeks before this cycle and lost about 3-4kgs of fat.

    Now i'm bulking with a small to large surplus of kcalls. Guess the tren will help to keep of the fat. I'm down to 93kgs (about 95kgs carbloaded) and my cycle is as follows:
    1-2: 75mg test prop ED
    2-11: 100mg test prop ED
    1-10: 75mg tren ace ED
    1-10: 75 masteron prop ED

    With hcg during the cycle to help my fellahs feeling fair.

    I'm on day 5 of the cycle.

    The reason i only do 75mgs of prop the first week is due to problems with deliverance. (actually i'm doing a mix with 50mg prop,50mg tren and 50mg masteron and i'll in week 2 add some extra prop)

    I'm getting a bit leaner.

    I'll do my 5th injection later tonight, in triceps. Strenght is ok. Still doing 5x110kgs of benchpress. So i guess thats ok. Getting harder muscles though.

    The first injection hurted like a bitch and the soreness have started to fade away today (right quad). the second inject was fine and soreness wasn't bad at all (left quad). Third inject is still a bit sore (left delt). Fourth inject was pretty ok, injected last night and not really that sore (right delt).
    Hope the soreness will fade away eventually.

    Currently carbing up and going for a back & biceps workout. Not expecting that much of the strenght.
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    fair back workout. doing the inject later..
    Went to sleep after working out, drinking a shake and eating. I sleept like a baby for 3 hours and woke up all sweaty.

    Went shopping for dinner.. Only wearing a t-shirt and a jacket, nothing much. Started sweating like hell at the mall..

    My calves cramps/burn easily. Just by going up 4 steps of my doorway entrance they started burning

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    triceps inject hurted a bit..

    shooting 1,5mL might be too much for the small muscles

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    keep us posted

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    the lateral head on triceps is pretty sore.

    I'm going down to 1mL in the small muscles (delts, triceps, biceps and so on)
    And still shooting 1,5mL (1,75mL when the EXTRA prop is here) in the big ones (quads, perhaps glutes, i'm still a virgin when it comes to glute inject)
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    hope my triceps will be ready for tommorows chest workout. Although i think since it is only my lateral head which is sore i'll be o.k.

    Injecting later tonight.. Planning to eat at least 1kg/2.2pounds of meat - chicken, cowmeat and so on.

    P.s. i'm takin' milkthistle for my liver.

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    i will be doing the same cycle next. man do the glutes. i dont how the hell you do your tri's. i could never

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    injected tonight... WHAT A ****ING BURN!!!!

    nasty shit..

    Been eating approx 4500kcals, 300-400g of proteins. And i'm off for bed.. awaiting massive soreness tommorow..

    it burned as much as my first shot.

    The legend: actually i don't think the triceps is that bad to hit. I just struck a nerve meaning my forearm was like electrecuted fore some secs. triceps soreness is ok. hope it will be even better tommorow..

    Hope the inject pain and soreness will fade away.. 'cause man this is some crazy shit..

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    no real soreness from last days inject.

    I workout chest and triceps. went fair, although my lateral head still was sore. Got 6-7reps with 110kgs of benchpress. guess it's ok since my triceps was sore and i hadn't got enuff to eat.

    I've noticed that efter todays workout a medium red area have grown around the triceps-inject site. It's swollen and very light red, and warmer than the rest of the triceps. But all my inject sites seem to rise in temperature, so i don't know whether this is an infection or what it is. It doesn't hurt as long as don't flex triceps. I've drawn a circle around the light area, to see if it grows.

    On a scale from 1 to 10, where 10 is the most painfull, the triceps soreness goes varies from 2-6 i guess.

    I don't have a fever and don't feel sick. Any advice on how i should react?
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    bump?

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    I would stay away from those smaller sites if you can...stick with glutes, quads, and delts.

    Keep us updated on how things are going, I am interested in seeing how you like masteron.

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    i will bro. thanks for the advice.

    THe swelling and warmth of the spot is dissapearing. guess my triceps just didn't like prop and tren.

    My inject from last day was fine.

    My delt soreness is completely gone by now - which means today is a day with only minimal soreness

    Thinking of bumping up the kcals to 4700 ED.

    Don't know when i should start feelin' the prop, tren and masteron? any expiriences?

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    You should start feeling the prop in week 2. How about posting some before pics?

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    update:

    My triceps is getting good again. Guess it was just some musclesoreness and some blood causing the redness.
    I'm happy that it wasn't any worse.

    I'm getting better at shooting i think, resulting in less soreness.

    Any tips on doing glutes, when you're alone?

    jamikehat:
    Cool. I will post before pictures when i have my harddrive back from the hardware-store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSmallness
    I would stay away from those smaller sites if you can...stick with glutes, quads, and delts.

    Keep us updated on how things are going, I am interested in seeing how you like masteron.
    I will try that

    Masteron allready seem to have hardened me up. My muscles are very hard, acutually like stone - and i guess it's not from the tren - but i was fairly cut (BF -12%) before starting this cycle, so that also helps.

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    starting to notice some mild sideeffects:

    aggressiveness, tren sweat; and lots of it, small problems with sleeping

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    starting to notice some mild sideeffects:

    aggressiveness, tren sweat; and lots of it, small problems with sleeping
    What kind of sweating? Like from your armpits, or just everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    What kind of sweating? Like from your armpits, or just everywhere.
    mostly the forehead.. But also the back, armpits and so on.

    I guess i only sweat a bit more. But i drink lots of water, so it's ok i guess.

    My sweat is a bit more sticky than usual.

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    damn... i just noticed how hard my muscles are tonight.. it feels like having a pump all day.. Feelin' rock hard and ready to lift some weights tommorow. Will do a delt inject tonight. 1,5mL in lateral delt, hope it's gonna go well

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    How about some before pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    How about some before pics.
    i've already answered that request..

    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    jamikehat:
    Cool. I will post before pictures when i have my harddrive back from the hardware-store.

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    man i feel aggressiv on ocasions..

    AND MAN i sweat a lot when working out..

    Worked my chest, triceps and some frontal delt, i'm not gonna post my full program, but just the best lifts:

    Barbell free weight benchpress:
    7x110kgs (242lbs) - fairly easy; gain of total 2 reps in 10 days

    Incline benchpress:
    10x90kgs (198lbs) - easy
    4x100kgs (220lbs) - heavy but a personal record

    Did get some extra reps on the dips too. Glad things are starting to work a bit. A nice hard pump with a little sign of the socalled "trenpump"/the real burning pump..
    Getting a bit leaner but haven't lost weight.. Probarbly water

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    gonna do my first glute-inject later tonight, hopefully my needles are long enough

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    today i expierenced my first tren cough, damn it's nasty...

    LOTS of sweat and cou***ng..

    Guess i only had a mild one (actually going on as i'm writing this), but the cou***ng isn't as wild as some people describe it.. but i'm literally bathing in sweat..

    My lunges feel like they are itchy on the inside and i tasted the tren in my mouth 3-5secs before i started sweating, although i don't think i hit a vein, since i aspirated..

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    I was about 30-60secs to do the inject, guess any faster would had made the cou***ng worse..

    Man my emotions are all f#¤ked up right now.. I feel like killing people one second and crying another second..

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    something is changing, either i'm getting ill, or tren is starting to show sides.

    I sleep very light at night and wake up during the night at times i never used to wake up at all..

    When i workout i lose my breath very easy and get " side stitches" when pumpin' (no cardio) which is a little weird i guess. Pumps are better than on test and deca, much harder and longer, and i get a little "tren like pump pain" after a set, not for more than 5-10secs, but something is changing, it get that cramp-like feeling very easy, and my calves are very sensitive to activity.

    Strenght isn't really much up yet.. Pumps are getting real great though, and i seem a bit happier about life, but also a bit more aggressive on strange ocasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    something is changing, either i'm getting ill, or tren is starting to show sides.
    Strenght isn't really much up yet.. Pumps are getting real great though, and i seem a bit happier about life, but also a bit more aggressive on strange ocasions.
    Sounds like mild tren sides. Keep on posting and this sounds like nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamikehat
    Sounds like mild tren sides. Keep on posting and this sounds like nothing to worry about.
    I will bro.



    I'm almost still as hard as when i had pump, i usually go real soft about an hour after workout, but it has been 4 hours now and i'm still hard, lovin' this shit

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    ok, i might have underestimated my temper, i might be very aggressive on ocasions.. Especially with my neightbours and bad answers on forums..

    I know i can't expect a perfect answer every time, but man it pisses me off when people don't read my thread entirely and start giving me meaningless answers...

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    woke up covered in sweat this morning.. something that i never do.. man, even my pillow was soak.. bet my bed won't even be dry before i go to sleep tonight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    woke up covered in sweat this morning.. something that i never do.. man, even my pillow was soak.. bet my bed won't even be dry before i go to sleep tonight...
    put some towels down at night b4 bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla
    put some towels down at night b4 bed
    i'll try that.. hope that i wont sweat as much tonight, although i am doubting that it will be any different..

    MAN i love ventrogluteal injections..

    Wish i could do them all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    i'll try that.. hope that i wont sweat as much tonight, although i am doubting that it will be any different..

    MAN i love ventrogluteal injections..

    Wish i could do them all the time
    ventroglute is a favorite of mine also. it's easy to get at, can hold 2 ccs easilly and is painless.

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    ok, sides are getting a bit worse.. been up for an hour and i'm not usually up until 3 hours later than now..

    Nightsweats are still there, was really soaked today, did the towel-tingy though and my bed is able to be keep fairly dry..

    BUT MAN, the dreams are really f¤#cked up... Dreamt that i beated up several people, some of them ended dying, and in my dream i didn't even care.. The dream ends with me getting something very fast expanding fluid blown into my ears, 'causing my eardrum to burst, and then i woke up, lol..

    Don't feel tired at all, guess it might be something insomnia-like-effect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler
    ok, sides are getting a bit worse.. been up for an hour and i'm not usually up until 3 hours later than now..

    Nightsweats are still there, was really soaked today, did the towel-tingy though and my bed is able to be keep fairly dry..

    BUT MAN, the dreams are really f¤#cked up... Dreamt that i beated up several people, some of them ended dying, and in my dream i didn't even care.. The dream ends with me getting something very fast expanding fluid blown into my ears, 'causing my eardrum to burst, and then i woke up, lol..

    Don't feel tired at all, guess it might be something insomnia-like-effect..
    have you ever ran tren b4? and at this dose? if you cant handle the sides i would try cutting the dose down abit and see if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla
    have you ever ran tren b4? and at this dose? if you cant handle the sides i would try cutting the dose down abit and see if that helps.
    havent run tren before, but i checked out the diary of clorkworks and it seemed fair to run this dosage.

    If the sides don't get any worse i'll stay at this dosage, if they get worse i will cut it down.

    Fell a sleep for 2 more hours after eating and posting the previous post.. Lol, i dream about voilence every single time.. Kinda funny to beat up the whole world while sleeping

    Slept rather good this second time though, no sweats

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    still sweating while sleeping, although the intensity varys.
    Something is def. changing with my body, look a lot harder/more cut while still maintaining/gaining weight

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    benchpresses has gone up with between 5 and 7,5kgs (11-16,5lbs)

    Nice to feel the strenght kickin' in, although the pump wasn't that top nudge today, hehe..

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    by the way i'm on day 16, which is pretty good for such a big strenght increase i guess
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    got some coughs again tonight.. but if its tren cough i don't think it that bad. I know, you almost can't breathe, but if you don't panic, it isn't that much of a deal..


    btw, the extra prop fvcking hurts.. man that shit is nasty to shoot. only about 0,25mL but man it hurts a lot more than the mix alone
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