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    Gains

    This is just a weird question cause im on my first cycle and was seeing how much people can jump up on by doing bench. Im taking sus 250, about 14 shots worth and im benching 225 now which isnt a hole lot but for the people that are willing to just give me a resposne tat would be great, seening how much i can go up on bench, or how much do ppl think i can go up on max by doin this cycle

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    depends on what you're doing for your bench routine...what are your current sets/reps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Drez
    depends on what you're doing for your bench routine...what are your current sets/reps?
    4th set im benching 225 for 2 which isnt a hole lot. I do 135 for 12, 185 for 10, 205 for 5 and 225 for 2, i used to be able to do alot more but im gettin back into things but ya curious on how much i can get up on

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    Man, there is SOOOOO many different routines/ways/methods I am sure everyone that answers this will tell you something different regarding bench. From my own personal experience I used something like this...

    Week 1:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 12: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 8: Use 80% of your max


    Week 2:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 12: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 7: Use 80% of your max


    Week 3:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 4:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 5:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 7: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 6:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 7:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 8:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 7: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 9:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 6: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 90% of your max


    Week 10:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 6: Use 60% of your max - Rest 2 minutes:
    1 set of 4: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 2: Use 90% of your max


    and it worked well for me....but all you have to do is KEEP increasing your weight. I move up 5-10lbs every week on my sets and if I can't do it I use a spotter until I can get my desired rep count by myself and then I move up.

    For instance start with 175 or 185 and do 10 reps, then go up to 195lbs and do 8 then go to 205 and do 6. If you can't get 6, use a spotter until you can. Then start your 10 reps at 10lbs higher then the previously started weight. Your body won't get stronger if you don't push it past it's limits. Search the internet or even this site and I'm sure you'll find ALL kinds of advice being this one of the biggest if not THE biggest subject regarding lifting...

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    how many mgs are you taking per wk

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    i took 250 my first 2 shots, im taking 500 mgs on my 4th shot and will be doing that for about 4 weeks.. than another 3 weeks of 250 mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Drez
    Man, there is SOOOOO many different routines/ways/methods I am sure everyone that answers this will tell you something different regarding bench. From my own personal experience I used something like this...

    Week 1:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 12: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 8: Use 80% of your max


    Week 2:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 12: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 7: Use 80% of your max


    Week 3:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to a minute and a Minute and half
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 4:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 10: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 5:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 7: Use 70% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes
    1 set of 6: Use 80% of your max


    Week 6:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 7:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 8:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 7: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 85% of your max


    Week 9:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 6: Use 60% of your max - Rest 1 to 2 minutes:
    1 set of 6: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 4: Use 90% of your max


    Week 10:


    Warm up: 1 set of 20 reps - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 8: Use 50% of your max - Rest 1 minute:
    1 set of 6: Use 60% of your max - Rest 2 minutes:
    1 set of 4: Use 75% of your max - Rest 2 minutes
    1 set of 2: Use 90% of your max


    and it worked well for me....but all you have to do is KEEP increasing your weight. I move up 5-10lbs every week on my sets and if I can't do it I use a spotter until I can get my desired rep count by myself and then I move up.

    For instance start with 175 or 185 and do 10 reps, then go up to 195lbs and do 8 then go to 205 and do 6. If you can't get 6, use a spotter until you can. Then start your 10 reps at 10lbs higher then the previously started weight. Your body won't get stronger if you don't push it past it's limits. Search the internet or even this site and I'm sure you'll find ALL kinds of advice being this one of the biggest if not THE biggest subject regarding lifting...
    i appreciate the help bro but im still curious how much i think i can go up on bench. Like maxing out i mean, liek say im doin 225 for 2, wanting to see when im at my peak in the cycle how much i can be doin for 1

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    if any1 can answer the question thatd be great lol

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    nobody will be able to tell you...it's too vague. Depends on your training, diet, how well your body develops. Rough estimate you should be doing at the very LEAST 250-265 when you're done but you can't quote that because everybody is different. Muscle has memory if you were bigger/stronger before you should be past where you were then when you're done. It is impossible to tell you an exact number though....

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    maybe u will go up around 35-50 pounds if you work very hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivaled
    i took 250 my first 2 shots, im taking 500 mgs on my 4th shot and will be doing that for about 4 weeks.. than another 3 weeks of 250 mg?
    Just take 250 throughout or 500 throughout (you will need more if you want to do this). Go up from 250 and stay there or dont go up at all. Not good to have test levels fluctuating like that.

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    thanks guys and 1 more question, my friend has this bottle left of sus 300 mg left over from his last cycle , has about 2 shots worth and gave it to me, was curious if its bad to mix the 2 together

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    There's no telling what you can increas your bench by. There's too many varibles. Dont worry about how much it goes up by, just worry about lifting hard and gaining weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivaled
    thanks guys and 1 more question, my friend has this bottle left of sus 300 mg left over from his last cycle , has about 2 shots worth and gave it to me, was curious if its bad to mix the 2 together
    Stick with a 10 week cycle of 250 or 500. Nothing else is needed. Its a good first cycle and lets you know how your body reacts to test alone. If you add other compounds and have neg effects, you wont know which one is the culprit. Just leave the sus alone, allthought it is test. Good luck

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