-pre cutting pics!- tell me what you think

[diezell]

Well what can i say... Holidays were good
Im 5-8 230 pounds, what do you guys think. This picture was taken without a pump. What do you think my bf% is. Weak and strong points? All comments are appreciated sorry about having to cut out the tattoo and face.

[jk486994]

Wow Great Job Bulking....Your gonna come out great after you cut....

BF: 19% give or take

[Jiesel]

I'd say 20-22%, not horribly high, looks like you've got alot of solid mass to work with, maybe slowly cut a bit down to summer and you'll be huge. strong point - chest, weak - shoulders....without seeing wheels.

[diezell]

one more pic from a different view

[skr0w]

looks like were about the same bf%.

[ph34rsh4ck]

What do YOU think your strong and weak points are? What are u working on fixing when you go into the gym? Do you have goals set in mind of where you want to be in 6 months? If you have no direction youll make no progress

[davethewavedra]

good mass! cant wait to see you cutt! Keep working hard!

[diezell]

What do YOU think your strong and weak points are? What are u working on fixing when you go into the gym? Do you have goals set in mind of where you want to be in 6 months? If you have no direction youll make no progress

Shoulders have been a task to bring out, my front delts are very big and over power the rest of my shoulder... i think my strongest point is my chest and back... any other comments or suggestions?

[firmechicano831]

Good mass bro. Keep working hard

[ronan the barbarian]

lookin good,its horrible lookin smooth cus mr average says your fat!!!!!!!!

but come down to 210/200 (estimate) and youll look solid..

its strange cus the less you weigh (bber) the bigger you look.

but congrats anyway

[diezell]

lookin good,its horrible lookin smooth cus mr average says your fat!!!!!!!!

but come down to 210/200 (estimate) and youll look solid..

its strange cus the less you weigh (bber) the bigger you look.

but congrats anyway

thats actually my biggest fear.. i bounce for a living and i dont wanna look small do to the losing of weight

[ronan the barbarian]

thats actually my biggest fear.. i bounce for a living and i dont wanna look small do to the losing of weight

door work is about confidence or enrorcement and conrol of aggression,and generally that is nothing to do with size.
you wear slim fitting shirts/t shirts with the correct demeanor (sp) and people will see your shape and it will (at the most) intimidate mr average enough to realise you might /can beat down him even if you couldnt.

a fat guy looks like a fat guy,but a muscular guy looks like he could F you up.if you get my meaning.

[diezell]

yeah, im lucky though for having a relatively high bf % my arms are still very vascular so i lucked out

[perfectbeast2001]

door work is about confidence or enrorcement and conrol of aggression,and generally that is nothing to do with size.
you wear slim fitting shirts/t shirts with the correct demeanor (sp) and people will see your shape and it will (at the most) intimidate mr average enough to realise you might /can beat down him even if you couldnt.

a fat guy looks like a fat guy,but a muscular guy looks like he could F you up.if you get my meaning.

I do the door too and i dont get treated any different wether im cutting or bulking. Go for it mate!!

[diezell]

I do the door too and i dont get treated any different wether im cutting or bulking. Go for it mate!!

Yeah i think thats the plan i think im gonna start monday!

[ronan the barbarian]

I do the door too and i dont get treated any different wether im cutting or bulking. Go for it mate!!

i agree and thats what i was saying about size....he should cut and not worry,cus if hes good at his job it doesnt matter if hes 12 stone or 15 stone.a sh*t doorman may rely on size and we all know people like that...

that was my only point.

[outlawtas]

I'm not sure what your dress code at work is, but where I work we have to wear a dress shirt/dress pants...when I drop the weight I actually look bigger because my shoulder:waist ratio improves greatly and gives me a bigger apearance.

[bpm1]

cut it up bro, im more impressed by the guys who are ripped than just big. a ripped guy looks more athletic like he can kick some ass over a big guy that looks like hes not very agile, in other words, ripped=intimidating

[thetank]

i agree and thats what i was saying about size....he should cut and not worry,cus if hes good at his job it doesnt matter if hes 12 stone or 15 stone.a sh*t doorman may rely on size and we all know people like that...

that was my only point.

ide say looking big matters being a door man..in a sweatshirt and coat i get chirped pretty much every night at some point....if i walk around in a beater or without sleeves no one is saying anything or looking me in the eyes..im not saying im the cat of all cats..i live in a small town in bc where someone my size is very very rare..but i can understand why he wouldnt want to look smaller working the door, i wouldnt..
but anyway, i think you have enough size that you are still gonna fill out a shirt if you lose a few lbs..lookin thick bro, good luck with the cutting

[Mealticket]

Well what can i say... Holidays were good
Im 5-8 230 pounds, what do you guys think. This picture was taken without a pump. What do you think my bf% is. Weak and strong points? All comments are appreciated sorry about having to cut out the tattoo and face.

LMFAO..i love honest people
id put you @ 20-24%....good size...clean it up and lean it out baby!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

ide say looking big matters being a door man..in a sweatshirt and coat i get chirped pretty much every night at some point....if i walk around in a beater or without sleeves no one is saying anything or looking me in the eyes..im not saying im the cat of all cats..i live in a small town in bc where someone my size is very very rare..but i can understand why he wouldnt want to look smaller working the door, i wouldnt..
but anyway, i think you have enough size that you are still gonna fill out a shirt if you lose a few lbs..lookin thick bro, good luck with the cutting

Big arms only intimidate the weak.

[stacked566]

Shit I work the door as well and it doesn't matter if I'm cutting or bulking. If something happens you have to be confident in your submission/fighting skills, otherwise it doesn't matter how big you are.

[AirForceTACP]

I say work your diet in slowly.. it'll make it easier to keep up with it and you wont lose as much mass..

Like others said.. drop down to about 210-215 as a reference point.. you should be able to maintain most your size.. and being vascular like you said.. you'll look 10x bigger when you're at 10% body fat ..