Serious help needed

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 08:16 AM

Ok guys. I started a cycle a little while back.. I was running 250mg of test and 300mg of Eq e0d for this cycle.. I am thinking now it was way over kill.. I dont have a crazy sex drive at all. . and I am extremely lethargic.. I just did a sleep study last night.. and at first glance the nurse said it doesnt seem like I have sleep apnea or need CPAP.. (results will come next week).. I also did blood work.. my Liver enzine (CGOT) were 10x high.. My test levels were of course 10x high as well... For some reason my RBC was fine.. but my White Blood count was up.. In the gym for one I dont even feel like going.. but there I get very irritated and just feel DRAINED.. any ideas??? I gotta get over this.. I am like week 7 and havent gained anything.. ????

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 09:03 AM

bump

**magic32** · 03-26-2007, 09:28 AM

If there were no sleep problems prior to cycle inception, you can discount Sleep Apnea. Assuming the nurse's diagnosis was made without being privy to knowledge of your cycle, it too can be tossed out.

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The EQ amount should not exceed that of Test. At this point, I'd drop it (EQ) altogether, continuing with Test alone (which could be raised is desired) though you may simply choose to reduce the EQ.

You might consider incorporating an AI to reduce estro (a very likely contributor), and since RCB's are not a hindrance, I'd advise a CNS stimulant for workouts until you've weathered this problem.

M.

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 09:41 AM

something like ergolean amp and armidex? I was taking letro to get rid of gyno lump..

**Dobie-BOY** · 03-26-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

If there were no sleep problems prior to cycle inception, you can discount Sleep Apnea. Assuming the nurse's diagnosis was made without being privy to knowledge of your cycle, it too can be tossed out.

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The EQ amount should not exceed that of Test. At this point, I'd drop it (EQ) altogether, continuing with Test alone (which could be raised is desired) though you may simply choose to reduce it.

You might consider incorporating an AI to reduce estro (a very likely contributor), and since RCB's are not a hindrance, I'd advise a CNS stimulant for workouts until you've weathered this problem.

M.

Yep^

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 10:08 AM

I stopped taking Eq 2 weeks ago, and I stopped my test E Last week... is it going to kill my cycle if I start taking the test E again.. ?? Shouldnt the Eq be out of my system already?

If nothing else.. Ill start shootin the test e tonight and continue with some armidex..

**magic32** · 03-26-2007, 10:28 AM

Oh, I didn't realize that.

EQ has an active life of 15days, so it's still in your system, just not acting in an anabolic capacity.

It's your choice as to whether you'll continue the Enth cycle, but you surely can! Or you can just start PCT next week to expedite resolution of this condition. Basically, the determining factors are:

Desire to continue cycling VS. Tolerance of the condition
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M.

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 10:32 AM

I suppose if that is the case.. I will never run Eq again.. Im going to run the cycle out.. and see If I can work thru it.. and see if things change.. I hate to think I wasted so much money with no gains..

**Schmidty** · 03-26-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by duramaxedge

something like ergolean amp and armidex? I was taking letro to get rid of gyno lump..

thats ur answer for the lack of sexdrive

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 11:28 AM

really?

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 11:33 AM

In light of all the bad. Ive learned a lot on this cycle over the others!! ... I WILL be sticking to short ester cycles.. (maybe exception of test e).. and god its hard to know everything!!.. lol..

**Maxim1056** · 03-26-2007, 11:34 AM

im thinking about taking test-c 400 mgs wk 1-10 and eq-400 mgs wk 2-12. I cannot believe your not getting any gains, and your on wk 7. Have you checked your gear to make sure its authentic?

**magic32** · 03-26-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by duramaxedge

I suppose if that is the case.. I will never run Eq again.. Im going to run the cycle out.. and see If I can work thru it.. and see if things change.. I hate to think I wasted so much money with no gains..

I wouldn't say that...there could be other variables at play here. And remember you unwittingly ran EQ higher than Test which is a

.

EQ a fine and proven compound, but of course not everything is for everyone!

M.

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 11:46 AM

I totally agree .. everything is not for everyone.. Ive just read the 300million posts about Eq not working unless ran higher levers for 12 weeks or longer.. So I was aiming towards that.. But as you said.. my unwitting mistake.. I hope that If I hop back on this test E I can start seeing something from this cycle.. .. after I rap this up.. I will be off for 3 months for shoulder surgery!! and then its on!! lol

**theboss** · 03-26-2007, 11:53 AM

i would come COMPLETELY OFF....run a good PCT for your cycle and get everything back in order BEFORE running anything else. Test should have been higher and I think you used to much if you were doing 250mg&300mg/EOD. it might not be to much for everyone but what i mean is maybe you werent ready for it. i know when i tried Sust @ 250mg/EOD and a PH it kicked the shit out me...I was sick for weeks. too much too fast.

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 01:11 PM

Well, like I said in my first post Boss. I agree.. that was my thoughts as well.. I guess there could be such a thing as too much?!? Vets??

**duramaxedge** · 03-26-2007, 06:59 PM

VETS: whats the effect of too much test .. or is there such a thing?

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