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    Sust Not Working!!!

    I've been taking sustanon 250 for 4 weeks now at 500 mg a week. i shoot 250 on tuesday and thursday. Also have been busting my ass in the gym and havent seen one improvment yet. im very frustrated i eat about 4,000 calories a day and eat 250 grams of protien.any reasons why? thanks

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    4,000 cals a day and your not growing? What's your stats?

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    because it fake.
    I have been taking 500 mg of test E and I am in my 3nd week and it going CRAZY!!!!!

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    even if the roids are fake u should still see growth from busting ur ass and eating like that. unless your a really big guy already and 4k is nothing for you....hows ur rest/sleep?? whats your work out split like??

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    Take your Sust every 3.5 days.

    IE

    Tues Morning Friday evening

    That's not why you aren't growing, but that would be the optimal weekly spread for stable blood levels. . . .if its real.

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    Do EOD

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    im 6-2 225 lbs. my splits are MON-chest,tri's
    TUE-ABS-legs
    WED-back,bi's
    THUR-ABS
    FRI-shoulders-forearms
    Last edited by mbacker79; 03-28-2007 at 08:43 PM.

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    some organon egypt nile sust is under dosed. you can't even draw 1ml per vile, eventhou it says 1ml on the vile. I could only draw .8ml

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    do not quote things that break the rules thankyou

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbacker79
    im 6-2 225 lbs. my splits are MON-chest,tri's
    TUE-ABS-legs
    WED-back,bi's
    THUR-ABS
    FRI-shoulders-forearms

    The product company is .
    yo just letting you know that you cant give the company names (UGLs) on this forum. i did it my self my first post here and it got edited along with please read the rules....you if u can edited it b4 they do they would be a good idea lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous
    yo just letting you know that you cant give the company names (UGLs) on this forum. i did it my self my first post here and it got edited along with please read the rules....you if u can edited it b4 they do they would be a good idea lol
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    according to this site the best anabolic work out is training every body part one every 7-8 days ( i cant even say i do this my self i like grouping Body parts ) so you would do a 1 day one 1 day off.....this is only good if you do each set till failure and completely fatigue the muscle.....if you wanna read up more about it go to the main page and on the left click "anabolic workout"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetguy
    Take your Sust every 3.5 days.

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    Tues Morning Friday evening

    That's not why you aren't growing, but that would be the optimal weekly spread for stable blood levels. . . .if its real.
    Actually for Sus it is ED due to short acting esters.

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    eod for sus would work too

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    its 1 of 2 things
    1: Your gear is fake or under-dosed
    2: Your not eating as much as you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    its 1 of 2 things
    1: Your gear is fake or under-dosed
    2: Your not eating as much as you think you are.
    exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    its 1 of 2 things
    1: Your gear is fake or under-dosed
    2: Your not eating as much as you think you are.

    I think you hit head of nail

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    And remember that 4k calories should be from food, not just protein powder or weight gainers, etc...

    One of my friend's was only eating about 1800-2000 cals from real food and then taking a shitload of protein powder and MRPs to get up to 4500 cals and didn't gain much off test/deca for the first 7 weeks he cycled. He switched to stuffing his face with chicken breasts all day instead of shakes and gained 17lbs in the last 3-4 weeks of his cycle!! Just a thought, not sure what your diet looks like.

    GBH

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    i took fake gear from mexico one time

    it made me feel dirty

    BUT !!!! It motivated me to go to the gym naturally and i gained some pretty good mass

    that and of course i drank protein shakes 24/7 for like 2months straight!! breakfast, lunch and dinner!! nothing but shakes shakes shakes and gym gym gym

    gained 27lbs from 172 and i was loving it!!

    but now im ready for the real thing

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    if i eat that much will i get fat? because i dont want to gain fat just muscle?

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    Lay out your diet and I'll see if I can help.

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    my test didn't kick in until week 7, totally normal to not see much by week 4....keep waiting

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    I took sust and saw absolutely nothing until week 6 give it a few more weeks most guys don't see any changes until week 6-7 but also don't expect to look like the hulk on sust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    my test didn't kick in until week 7, totally normal to not see much by week 4....keep waiting
    same with me Snrf..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous
    yo just letting you know that you cant give the company names (UGLs) on this forum. i did it my self my first post here and it got edited along with please read the rules....you if u can edited it b4 they do they would be a good idea lol
    yes you are correct but you are also breaking the rules by quoting the fact..................
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    Tough crowd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Booz
    yes you are correct but you are also breaking the rules by quoting the fact..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    my test didn't kick in until week 7, totally normal to not see much by week 4....keep waiting
    Week 7?! Wow I didn't know people would actually have to wait that long for Test to kick in. For me by Week 7 my squats went up 90-100lbs. My Test kicks in Week 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booz
    same with me Snrf..............

    yeah but wouldnt sus be diff since there is prop in that mix?

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    30mg of prop 2x a week would hardly make a difference, esp with ester included

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    it took about 7 weeks before i felt the effects of sus. Strength then kicked in like crazy. give it a chance.

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    Test E, Cyp, Sust always takes about 6 or 7 weeks for me, need to frontload first, its like watching the kettle boil waiting that long.

    Booz, didnt know you was an Iron, takes me back to the eighties does that badge, when it was fun.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAF3070
    Test E, Cyp, Sust always takes about 6 or 7 weeks for me, need to frontload first, its like watching the kettle boil waiting that long.

    Booz, didnt know you was an Iron, takes me back to the eighties does that badge, when it was fun.........
    lol hammer sounds better around here,dont think our couzins across the water really know wat you are saying.............
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    i'm on sus 250 as well, in my 3rd week and through proper diet and training i'm growing like crazy, I gained 12 pounds of muscle in the first 2 and a half weeks . You'll know its working, I see side effects such as feeling horny all the time, ass hurts after shots, etc.

    Then again, all I do is eat (chicken, eggs, oatmeal, turkey sandwiches on wheat bread, almonds, peanut butter, salad, sushi, kashi cereal, tuna, protein shakes) and work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooer
    i'm on sus 250 as well, in my 3rd week and through proper diet and training i'm growing like crazy, I gained 12 pounds of muscle in the first 2 and a half weeks . You'll know its working, I see side effects such as feeling horny all the time, ass hurts after shots, etc.

    Then again, all I do is eat (chicken, eggs, oatmeal, turkey sandwiches on wheat bread, almonds, peanut butter, salad, sushi, kashi cereal, tuna, protein shakes) and work out.

    how may mg/weekly are you taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by latinplaya
    i took fake gear from mexico one time

    it made me feel dirty

    BUT !!!! It motivated me to go to the gym naturally and i gained some pretty good mass

    that and of course i drank protein shakes 24/7 for like 2months straight!! breakfast, lunch and dinner!! nothing but shakes shakes shakes and gym gym gym

    gained 27lbs from 172 and i was loving it!!

    but now im ready for the real thing
    protein shakes all day is not a good thng

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaBeHuge2
    And remember that 4k calories should be from food, not just protein powder or weight gainers, etc...

    One of my friend's was only eating about 1800-2000 cals from real food and then taking a shitload of protein powder and MRPs to get up to 4500 cals and didn't gain much off test/deca for the first 7 weeks he cycled. He switched to stuffing his face with chicken breasts all day instead of shakes and gained 17lbs in the last 3-4 weeks of his cycle!! Just a thought, not sure what your diet looks like.

    GBH
    that's BS in my opinion. protein is protein and calories are calories, no matter what what form they are...if you are eating the right amount of each nutrient it doesnt matter if it is powder or solid...it's just energy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    30mg of prop 2x a week would hardly make a difference, esp with ester included
    Thats my thought when it comes to the 2x per week/EOD/ED debate SNrf. . . .

    The Test PP will pick up where the Test Prop leaves off. Since the 220mg/ml of Sust is 4day + esters, the prop is insignificant.

    On paper the ED or EDO "looks better" but in practice, the small fluctuation is no worse than Test E or Cyp 2x a week. If you are running straight prop, I agree that ED or EOD is a must.
    Last edited by kynetguy; 03-30-2007 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooer
    i'm on sus 250 as well, in my 3rd week and through proper diet and training i'm growing like crazy, I gained 12 pounds of muscle in the first 2 and a half weeks . You'll know its working, I see side effects such as feeling horny all the time, ass hurts after shots, etc.

    Then again, all I do is eat (chicken, eggs, oatmeal, turkey sandwiches on wheat bread, almonds, peanut butter, salad, sushi, kashi cereal, tuna, protein shakes) and work out.
    lol. Just because you gain weight does not mean it is muscle. Try 8lbs water. 2 lbs fat and 2lbs muscle. Maybe if you are lucky.

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    i love sust its the back bone to everyone of my cycles i can do 250mg a week and gain 20lbs of lean mass this is my first cycle right now where im experimenting with 500 mg a week with some primo im in week four and its kicking my ass and yes the org-n-n ones are def underdosed

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