Opinion Needed

[Kimo27]

im 5'7
191 pounds

lots of fast around chest and belly

heres my story ive been workingout/lifiting weights for about 2 years, and use to be 175lb. Over time ive gotten lazy and have been workingout on and off. Now ive dedicated to working out everyday for at least 1-2 hours, this has been going on for about a 2 months now.

at first i wanted to go with T3 to lose fat and stay tone, but then someone recommended clen. then i thought about clen. so i researched both and saw the effects (both good and bad) so i though clen would be good. but now i though of another way to approch this. so what do you guys think.

would this be safe(by safe i mean a combo of the two wont be deadly, i know with dealing with gear nothings ever safe)/effective?

Anavar/T3? or Anvar/clen?

or would you guys recommend just clen or just T3?

help is always appreciated thanks!!

[jagdpanther]

I would forget the clen - to many sides for me.
I like T3 but would not run it without Test.
Test E can help you cut and preserve mucsle as well if not better then most compounds. The key is in the diet and training.
you really should spend a little more time being consistent with your lifting but I bet you feel like a fat shit and want to get in better shape for the summer so you can get a little more action (I've been there).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you will continue to train and know how to. I will however tell you that I think you need to carefully review your diet. I will not get in depth on that here cause this is an AAS thread and there is forum on diet.

If I were in your shoes and in additon had limited resources(assuming HGH is to expensive - and i don't know what age I - u are, hgh seems more effective for us older guys)

I would do something like:

weeks 1-12 test e 500mg/week
weeks 1-4 Lr3-IGF 25mcg bilaterally 3 times a week pwo
weeks 6-12 t3, ramp up to a max of 150mcgED then ramp down
weeks 1-14 femara .5mg eod

start PCT week 14
include nolvadex, aromasin, and IGF on the protocol like before.

Note if you don not clean your diet up you are likely to regain what you lost.

[Valac]

i would forget the 2 and go with a proper diet and more cardio. u dont need gear until u start to plateau(i cant spell very good u should know what i mean if its not spelt right). with proper diet and cardio u should shred the pounds easly.

[Adam F]

Sounds like your BF% is to high to take gear. Im assuming your BF is over 20% for your height and weight. You should see a doctor and have him calculate your BMI before considering gear.

[GHO5T]

I wouldnt advise using AAS as of yet. Stay on a strict diet, and keep doing cardio (preferably in the mornings on an empty stomach) and keep lifting. If you want you can incorporate clen to give you and extra bump.

[Kimo27]

ok thanks guy yea ill probably use clen for the time being, im on a strict diet and maintain a constent workout schedule.
any ideas on anavar?

btw guys i read on t3 it says it will take away muscle but it also says it will burn lots of fat beore it even get to your muscle so why not t3 for my diet? just a thought.

[jagdpanther]

t3 will try and burn everything at once - it will not burn your fat first. that is why AAS is usually recomended with T3.
you need to think about your diet as a way of life not a temporary measure to reduce weight. From your posts it seems you have a tendency to yoyo - get fat then diet then get fat again. Not only is this counter productive but studies have indicated that yoyoing poses cardiovascular risks greater then just staying fat all the time.

[Kimo27]

no im not a yoyo its just the truth is i stopped b/c i broke my leg and during that time i did nothing at all but sit on my ass and eat, at first that was my excuse but overtime i just stayed like that. ive been wokring out alot now and its been going steady, i just need something to help me along the way.

i know this is going to sound repetative but how much muscle does it burn? i mean i know people here dont want muscle to leave b/c some of them are pro bodybuilders and others have worked so hard to gain it just for it to go away. but for me all i want is some lean mass.

[jagdpanther]

i know this is going to sound repetative but how much muscle does it burn?

Impossible to say exactly bro,
to many variables, diet, training, natty test levels, natty igf to name a few.

[Kimo27]

Impossible to say exactly bro,
to many variables, diet, training, natty test levels, natty igf to name a few.

ok dude thanks youve been lots of help, just one more thing. Lol im sorry for taking your time.

whenever i think of t3 taking muscle i keep thinking that it will take the muscle forever and ill look disfigured. (example: it takes a huge amount of muscle from one arm and nothing from the other) is this true? or am i just an imaginative thinker.

give it to me straight doc!

[jagdpanther]

ok dude thanks youve been lots of help, just one more thing. Lol im sorry for taking your time.

whenever i think of t3 taking muscle i keep thinking that it will take the muscle forever and ill look disfigured. (example: it takes a huge amount of muscle from one arm and nothing from the other) is this true? or am i just an imaginative thinker.

give it to me straight doc!

As far as i know because it is administered oraly and then goes systemic it should burn everywhere evenly. It will reduce the size of muscle cells but not kill them as far as i know. Same thing with fat - it reduces the size of fat cells not the number.

[jagdpanther]

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[jagdpanther]

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