Hillary Clinton: "We may need to confront Iran militarily"

[Logan13]

Hillary Clinton: "We may need to confront Iran militarily"
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
04/26/07

Democratic presidential candidate and New York Senator Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that it might be necessary for America to confront Iran militarily, addressing that possibility more directly than any of the other presidential candidates who spoke this week to the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Clinton first said that the US should be engaging directly with Iran to foil any effort to gain nuclear weapons and faulted the Bush administration for "considerably narrowing" the options available to America in countering Iran.

Still, she said, all avenues should be explored, since "if we do have to take offensive military action against Iran, it would be far better if the rest of the world saw it as a position of last resort, not first resort, because the effect and consequences will be global."

Other candidates who addressed the NJDC only went as far as saying that "no option should be taken off the table" when it came to thwarting Iran's nuclear ambitions. All of the major Democratic presidential contenders appeared at the three-day conference, but Clinton received the most time and applause. She hit on the importance of the US-Israel relationship and the need to recover the three Israeli soldiers kidnapped last summer by Hamas and Hizbullah, but she devoted most of her address to domestic issues popular with Jewish Democrats, such as education, healthcare and the separation of church and state.

She also told the crowd in response to an audience question that her husband would serve as an international envoy to rebuild goodwill for Americans around the world if she were elected.

New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, who spoke after Clinton, also suggested that he would use a famous former statesman as an envoy in his administration. In Richardson's case, he was proposing former secretary of state James Baker to serve as a permanent Middle East envoy, a position Richardson would revive should he win the presidency. Baker is a Republican who served under former president George H. W. Bush.

"There has to be bipartisanship in our foreign policy," Richardson told the press.

He also said economic and military aid to Israel should be increased, and that "the cornerstone of my foreign policy in the Middle East would be a strong relationship with Israel."

[mcpeepants]

i wish democratic voters would pay attention to remarks like this. she's acting just as hawkish as Bush.

[Benches505]

I think she is just telling the Jews what they want to hear. She is VERY liberal and I don't see her starting anything. Her husband was far less liberal and only tossed a few cruise missiles and cut and run from Somalia. That is what made the terrorist brave to attack us in the first place.

[eliteforce]

an attack on iran while us forces are in iraq is off the table, the iranian counter attack will cause considerable damage to us force and the persian gulf will become unusable to shipping.

[Dude-Man]

She just lost my vote.

[Superhuman]

I'm all for keeping Iran from possessing Nuclear Arms, but to threaten military action this soon - and when she's not even going to be president! lol

Everybody PLEASE vote for John McCain, he's a smart guy

[Mighty Joe]

If she is elected consider me a Canadian.....

[Prada]

Irelevant to what Clinton said, the way things are going it seems quite apparent that military action may be needed. Id be worried if she said the contrary

[Benches505]

I'm sorried about pay backs with all of this military actions we keep taking. The world already hates us and sees as a bully!

We won't be on top forever guys...what happens when we decline as all great powers have.

[biglouie250]

i saw a great shirt yesterday on tshirthell.com it had a pic of obama and hillary and in the middle it said "the choice is clear.....vote republican" i think id vote for a sloth if it were republican at this point. both of these front running democratic hacks have annoyed me way to much lately.

[gigem]

i saw a great shirt yesterday on tshirthell.com it had a pic of obama and hillary and in the middle it said "the choice is clear.....vote republican" i think id vote for a sloth if it were republican at this point. both of these front running democratic hacks have annoyed me way to much lately.

right on big lou

[BgMc31]

Its funny how the republicans and conservatives on this forum are dissing Clinton for saying this, but would defend the hell out of Bush and other republicans if they said it. Hypocrites all around!!!

[Superhuman]

Its funny how the republicans and conservatives on this forum are dissing Clinton for saying this, but would defend the hell out of Bush and other republicans if they said it. Hypocrites all around!!!

i don't think anybody here is going to defend bush anymore, dude, so is it necessary to call people you don't even know hypocrites?

[kfrost06]

i saw a great shirt yesterday on tshirthell.com it had a pic of obama and hillary and in the middle it said "the choice is clear.....vote republican" i think id vote for a sloth if it were republican at this point. both of these front running democratic hacks have annoyed me way to much lately.

I think I am going to vote for biglouie!

[BgMc31]

i don't think anybody here is going to defend bush anymore, dude, so is it necessary to call people you don't even know hypocrites?

Yep!!! If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

[Obs]

One of the main concerns with Hillary Clinton by the american public is that she will not be tough enough to handle a war type situation because she is a woman. She just trying to address this by mentioning a possibility of banging on the war drum. She wouldn't start another fight she doesen't have the balls! Seriously. She's blowing hot air just like all the other candidates. On her worst PMS day she might sit down and have a cup of tea with the Iranians and talk treaty but thats it. Anything you hear from either side is just the cadidates flexing their arms. None of it will make it to the white house. This is politics!!!!!!

[gigem]

hillary couldnt even keep her husband in check muchless a whole nation or world lol

[Obs]

hillary couldnt even keep her husband in check muchless a whole nation or world lol

LOL YEP!!!

[Lexed]

if you piss herr off and its during a pms it will be the end of the world. Nukes flying in ever direction

[Logan13]

Its funny how the republicans and conservatives on this forum are dissing Clinton for saying this, but would defend the hell out of Bush and other republicans if they said it. Hypocrites all around!!!

I never dissed her for this. But hypothetically speaking, if she were to invade Iran and after some time the "insurgents" made their way to this country, would we back out of there also because it was becoming too difficult? How about if the insurgents go to Afghanistan, will this war become too much for it's supporters to handle as well? This is hypocrisy and worse yet, cowardice.

[BgMc31]

I never dissed her for this. But hypothetically speaking, if she were to invade Iran and after some time the "insurgents" made their way to this country, would we back out of there also because it was becoming too difficult? How about if the insurgents go to Afghanistan, will this war become too much for it's supporters to handle as well? This is hypocrisy and worse yet, cowardice.

Iran actually has 'REAL' ties to terrorism, unlike Iraq did before our invasion. So attacking Iran actually has a real reason, and it's not sketchy intelligence this time.

[Logan13]

Iran actually has 'REAL' ties to terrorism, unlike Iraq did before our invasion. So attacking Iran actually has a real reason, and it's not sketchy intelligence this time.

Mark my words. If this does occur and these "insurgents" flood into Iran to fight us, many in your camp will change their tune. Liberals are only strong when they are winning. When the going gets tough, their backbones disappear.........

[RamyGras]

if you piss herr off and its during a pms it will be the end of the world. Nukes flying in ever direction

Funny stuff. Sexist, but funny stuff.

[BgMc31]

Mark my words. If this does occur and these "insurgents" flood into Iran to fight us, many in your camp will change their tune. Liberals are only strong when they are winning. When the going gets tough, their backbones disappear.........

That's a load of shit Logan. You are now calling them insurgents when everyone in your camp used to call them terrorists. So you are laughable!!! Call it what you want. A Republican like yourself will continue to get American's killed all because they don't want to admit a mistake. So I guess there are idiots on both sides!!!

Oh BTW, I'm a free thinker. I actually would not pull out of Iraq. I would actually put 400K troops in Iraq and completely subjegate the country. If we are going to invade someone, we should do it right and I would have been honest to the American people and tell them the truth as to why I invaded a country. I think all politicians are full of shit and I've pointed out that before. But I'm not one to blindly follow anyone like most in your 'camp'!!!

[juicedOUTbrain]

That's a load of shit Logan. You are now calling them terrorists when everyone in your camp used to call them terrorists. So you are laughable!!! Call it what you want. A Republican like yourself will continue to get American's killed all because they don't want to admit a mistake. So I guess there are idiots on both sides!!!

Oh BTW, I'm a free thinker. I actually would not pull out of Iraq. I would actually put 400K troops in Iraq and completely subjegate the country. If we are going to invade someone, we should do it right and I would have been honest to the American people and tell them the truth as to why I invaded a country. I think all politicians are full of shit and I've pointed out that before. But I'm not one to blindly follow anyone like most in your 'camp'!!!

RIGHT ON!

When are we going to figure out that terrorism and hatred towards the US cant be defeated with bombs? Military strikes against Iran would only further radicalize the country and the region (see Iraq)...Any candidate talking about striking Iran obviously has no abiltiy to learn from our mistakes.

[Logan13]

That's a load of shit Logan. You are now calling them terrorists when everyone in your camp used to call them terrorists. This sentence makes no sense...it is laughableSo you are laughable!!! Call it what you want. A Republican like yourself will continue to get American's killed all because they don't want to admit a mistake. So I guess there are idiots on both sides!!!

Oh BTW, I'm a free thinker. I actually would not pull out of Iraq. I would actually put 400K troops in Iraq and completely subjegate the country. If we are going to invade someone, we should do it right and I would have been honest to the American people and tell them the truth as to why I invaded a country. I think all politicians are full of shit and I've pointed out that before. But I'm not one to blindly follow anyone like most in your 'camp'!!!

You keep saying that I am "skewing" what you say. What you have said is in black and white and is available for reference. Perhaps you should define your statements better by removing all of the fluff........

[BgMc31]

You keep saying that I am "skewing" what you say. What you have said is in black and white and is available for reference. Perhaps you should define your statements better by removing all of the fluff........

touche' Logan, but you know I meant to put in the word 'insurgents'. So unlike your Republicans, I have no problem admitting I made a mistake!

[mcpeepants]

Iran the worlds biggest source of terror? come on. The US, the UK and friends attacked Iraq and caused the destablization that is occuring there now. There action caused more terror than anything Iran has done. Also the people accusing Iran are the same people who made claims about Iraq having wmds, that bin laden and saddam were best friends, that Iraq had hundreds of UAVs ready to launch, could send its wmd within 45 minutes, etc.

Hilary statements are just plan stupid. We haven't even really started negotiating with Iran and she talking about bombing Iran. Clearly she hasn't learned anything from Iraq. Maybe she thinks it will be easier in a country three times the size, nearly three times the population, and with a better military.

[Logan13]

touche' Logan, but you know I meant to put in the word 'insurgents'. So unlike your Republicans, I have no problem admitting I made a mistake!

Ok, admit their wrong, than what? I want the problem solved, then we can worry about how we got there so that we do not create the same problems in the future. Again, we need solutions, not finger pointing..........

[juicedOUTbrain]

Ok, admit their wrong, than what? I want the problem solved, then we can worry about how we got there so that we do not create the same problems in the future. Again, we need solutions, not finger pointing..........

How about we stop looking at the people who got us into this mess for the solution? Why dont we stop talking about invading another middle easten country when we cant even finish what we started in Iraq?

Do you really think bush made a "mistake"? You dont think him and his hundreds of advisors knew an insurgency was probable? And how incompentent are they if they honestly didn't???

They dont care that our soldiers are dying, thier oil supplies are secured,the defense and construction companys are making $$$, and Israel feels safer...They have no reason to leave. So lets stop listening to the people who are making money being there, republican or democrat...

Its not like we are sunday morning quarter backing, me and many others saw this coming a year before the war even started...You and your fellow chronies are the ones who failed to forsee what has now happened...This leaves you with absolutly no credibility in my book.

[Logan13]

How about we stop looking at the people who got us into this mess for the solution? Why dont we stop talking about invading another middle easten country when we cant even finish what we started in Iraq?

Do you really think bush made a "mistake"? You dont think him and his hundreds of advisors knew an insurgency was probable? And how incompentent are they if they honestly didn't???

They dont care that our soldiers are dying, thier oil supplies are secured,the defense and construction companys are making $$$, and Israel feels safer...They have no reason to leave. So lets stop listening to the people who are making money being there, republican or democrat...
This is just more of the same conspiracy theory BS, out of all of the oil contracts that Iraq handed last month, the US got NONE of them.....

Its not like we are sunday morning quarter backing, me and many others saw this coming a year before the war even started...You and your fellow chronies are the ones who failed to forsee what has now happened...This leaves you with absolutly no credibility in my book.

You will have credibility when you actually come up with solutions. Until than, you are just another whiner that brings nothing to the table of solutions.

[RamyGras]

You will have credibility when you actually come up with solutions. Until than, you are just another whiner that brings nothing to the table of solutions.

So the administration makes a COLLOSAL mistake, other people call them out on it. And because they are calling them out on it, they are whiners? And, you're stating that the poster here has no credibility because he doesn't have a solution? You're pushing it Logan. If this was the case, then nobody in the administration would have any credibility. What's your solution?

People must be held accountable for their mistakes. I imagine you supported Bush during the war because you were told they had WMD. Then it turns out that was a bunch of BS. So, the administration gets to get away with a blatant lie, b/c "well, we have to fix the problem, not point fingers". This wasn't a simple mistake.

But, please answer the question about your solution. Because, you're mocking this poster by telling him he has no crediblity b/c he doesn't have a solution that our own gov't doesn't. What's your solution? And, remember, your credibility is at stake.

[Logan13]

So the administration makes a COLLOSAL mistake, other people call them out on it. And because they are calling them out on it, they are whiners? And, you're stating that the poster here has no credibility because he doesn't have a solution? You're pushing it Logan. If this was the case, then nobody in the administration would have any credibility. What's your solution?
I have said over and over that Iraq is a damn mess, and the President has to bear the burden of responsibility on it.
People must be held accountable for their mistakes. I imagine you supported Bush during the war because you were told they had WMD. Then it turns out that was a bunch of BS. So, the administration gets to get away with a blatant lie, b/c "well, we have to fix the problem, not point fingers". This wasn't a simple mistake.
I supported the Iraq war because Saddam needed to be held to his cease-fire agreement from the Gulf war. Everyone thought that he had WMD's, and by everyone I mean at least 8 countries inteligence agencies. If you accuse the Bush administration of lying, than you have to hold every other countries feet to the same fire for having the same inteligence. As you must recall, there were many, many countries who assisted in this campaign.
But, please answer the question about your solution. Because, you're mocking this poster by telling him he has no crediblity b/c he doesn't have a solution that our own gov't doesn't. What's your solution? And, remember, your credibility is at stake.

I know that whining that we never should have been there solves nothing. We are there, and if we leave now Iraq will become the new Afghanistan. I am mocking the "poster" because he is whining about shit that does not matter. I do not have the answers, but I do not waste time speaking on should-haves and what-ifs. This divisivness does nothing to win the war and bring our soldiers home, but leaving now is not an option.

[spywizard]

So the administration makes a COLLOSAL mistake, other people call them out on it. And because they are calling them out on it, they are whiners? And, you're stating that the poster here has no credibility because he doesn't have a solution? You're pushing it Logan. If this was the case, then nobody in the administration would have any credibility. What's your solution?

People must be held accountable for their mistakes. I imagine you supported Bush during the war because you were told they had WMD. Then it turns out that was a bunch of BS. So, the administration gets to get away with a blatant lie, b/c "well, we have to fix the problem, not point fingers". This wasn't a simple mistake.

But, please answer the question about your solution. Because, you're mocking this poster by telling him he has no crediblity b/c he doesn't have a solution that our own gov't doesn't. What's your solution? And, remember, your credibility is at stake.

wait a second.. he kept saying he had wmd, he was trying to purchase materials and employ people to build a weapon that uses nuclear resources.. he had already used wmd (chemical poisoning) so when is enough?? when ?? if not now???

[juicedOUTbrain]

You will have credibility when you actually come up with solutions. Until than, you are just another whiner that brings nothing to the table of solutions.

My solution is to stop listening to the people that got us into this mess, and that includes YOU.

Ive went over iwhat my solution would be in numerous threads with you...Including a 6 part, point by point plan...i can dig it up if you'd like.

Point 1, pull out of the country where 68% of the population (including kurds) think its OK to attack american soldiers. That increases recruitment for Islamic gihad...I may not have a perfect solution, but one may not exist, which is why i was against this war in the 1st place...

You enthusiasticly endorsed this war, the burden of a solution is on you buddy!

[Logan13]

My solution is to stop listening to the people that got us into this mess, and that includes YOU.
Rosie, is that you?

Ive went over iwhat my solution would be in numerous threads with you...Including a 6 part, point by point plan...i can dig it up if you'd like.

Point 1, pull out of the country where 68% of the population (including kurds) think its OK to attack american soldiers. That increases recruitment for Islamic gihad...I may not have a perfect solution, but one may not exist, which is why i was against this war in the 1st place...
I have a feeling that you make a habit of "being against" many things....

You enthusiasticly endorsed this war, the burden of a solution is on you buddy! I have BIG shoulders....

Quit wringing your hands and whining, seriously. You are divisive to the end. It is America's problem, so why not quit trying to play the "Us against You" card........

[juicedOUTbrain]

edit: double post

[juicedOUTbrain]

Quit wringing your hands and whining, seriously. You are divisive to the end. It is America's problem, so why not quit trying to play the "Us against You" card........

Rosie? Very Mature. Whining? HA...My whining would of stopped the needless deaths of over 3,000brave americans, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Keep calling everyone who speaks against you whiners...Again, thats what got us into this mess!

And I hope you have big shoulders, cause hundreds of thousands of needless deaths are a pretty big burden logan. And as for being against things? Yes, Im against wars that do not protect our national security aswell as wars with no exit strategy.

And BTW, heres my plan JOB's Better than Bush Plan , post #71, its somewhere in there, between me owning you on the war and media consolidation.

JOB

[Logan13]

Whining? ha...My whining would of stopped the needless deaths of over 3,000brave americans, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Keep calling everyone who speaks against you whiners...Again, thats what got us into this mess!

And I hope you have big shoulders, cause hundreds of thousands of needless deaths are a pretty big burden logan.

And BTW, heres my plan JOB's Better than Bush Plan , post #71, its somewhere in there, between me owning you on the war and media consolidation.

JOB

Regurgitating liberal rhetoric has won you nothing, and you know it. Unless you are couting whining in your point totals......

[gigem]

i say we tell everyone who wants to live leave and make a sheet of glass out of the region!