first cycle and PCT ???

[Idunno]

I looked at this thread on first cycles and modified two cycles together:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

and then I used info from this thread on frontloading:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=285264

and I came up with this stacked first cycle:

wk 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
wk 1-13 Enanthate 500mg first day and 75mg ED thereafter
wk 1-12 Equipoise 500mg/wk
wk 1-15 Nolvadex 10mg/ed
wk 1-15 Ldex .25mg/ed

what PCT would I do for this? Also what are the main reasons for using the nolvadex and ldex during the cycle?

[TbolzNdbols]

No need for all this for your first cycle. Go with just test-e and see how you react.

[Knoxston]

ya i would stick with just the dbol and test for your fist i did and im very satisfied with the results

[Idunno]

ya i would stick with just the dbol and test for your fist i did and im very satisfied with the results

so one guy says just go test E and another says Enanthate and Dbol, but if I'm using E and Dbol, why not include the other stuff?

Also, It's not like I'm locked into this cycle.. quite the contrary. I just got back into position to get back in the gym and am trying to figure out what cycle I need so I can start looking for a source and figure out pricing... etc..

If and when I get a source, things will possibly change ***ending on what is available; I'd imagine.

[Knoxston]

well the dbol is just to jump start your cycle theres no need to include all these compounds for your first cycle when really you probaly wouldnt get any more gains then with just the test and dbol

[Idunno]

you've got mail....

[Idunno]

I combined these two:

Cycle 3:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

AND

Cycle 9:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

basically following the cycle 9 regiment butadding the Dbol for jumpstart...

[givenchy]

Always... ALWAYS.. have your first cycle just based around test because ur body tends to react to it twice as better do to your body being a virgin of the stuff , and then once you got a 8-12 week test based cycle then you can start mixin and matchin to get better results

[givenchy]

and clomid for 100 mg ED for 4 weeks and nolva for 20mg ED for 6 weeks and i'd have an AI like aromasin or letro on hand just incase u start developing gyno

[Idunno]

and clomid for 100 mg ED for 4 weeks and nolva for 20mg ED for 6 weeks and i'd have an AI like aromasin or letro on hand just incase u start developing gyno

that's the PCT recomendation or is that during cycle?