Need Some Input

[HIZZO]

Can someone please help me with how to incorporate HCG in this cycle, as well as, what to do for PCT (clomid, nolva, etc...). Cycle is as follows,

wks 1-12 Anavar 100mg/day
wks 1-12 Masteron 100mg/eod
wks 1-12 Winstrol 50mg/ed

Thank you in advance for any input.

[GHO5T]

Badly planned cycle bro, you need to incorporate some sort of test in your cycle, to keep your libido stable on cycle.

Before we give any cycle suggestions, please provide your stats (height, weight, age, bf, cycle history, diet, goal(s) for the cycle)

~GHO5T~

[JMC]

Badly planned cycle bro, you need to incorporate some sort of test in your cycle, to keep your libido stable on cycle.

Before we give any cycle suggestions, please provide your stats (height, weight, age, bf, cycle history, diet, goal(s) for the cycle)

~GHO5T~

Very true, also 12 weeks of Var is entirely too much

[JMC]

and winstrol for that matter too

[Random]

Wow, say goodbye to your cholesterol after that cycle, comon man u need to plan it out better like others said...

CD

[HIZZO]

Thanks for the replies guys. I knew the fact that I hadn't included any test would ruffle some feathers. I get very aggravated with even minimal amounts of test and I can't compromise my career (I have many clients, where patients is a virtue). The reason I was asking anout HCG is because I can't and won't do any test; which is why I was wondering if I should incorporate a couple 100mgs/week in hopes of regulating my test levels. I realize doing winny in excess of 6 weeks is also frowned upon, but I've done it in the past without any adverse side effects. As for my stats, I'm 5'11 195 pds and 10-12% bf. I've been in the gym religiousily for alot of years; BB for roughly 8 years. My diet is good and once I start my cycle it is my intention to increase my daily cardio and adjust my diet as if I were preparing for a show. I thank you again for taking the time to help me put this cycle together.

[mickdiesel]

I'd still say to shorten the cycle. we all have to keep our health in mind. running that much dht for that long is just not good for ur heart, and var plus winny for 12 weeks is unbelievably horrible for your liver especially with the var at 100mg/ed. I mean your triglycerides and ldl will be so high.
for the kind of results ull get from that u can run var and primo or mast at high dosages. they both can be run (mast and primo) at very high dosages safely. just not that long. good luck bro

[HIZZO]

Thanks Caban for input. In keeping with the idea of shortening the duration of the cycle, do you think it's unreasonable to increase the doses?

[mickdiesel]

no the dosages are fine for max 8 weeks. I'd shorten the winny to 4 though. the most 6. its just too much on your liver. we wanna live to see our grandkids juice ya know, lol

[mickdiesel]

mast u can run for longer. its pretty good about sides. u can run that 10 weeks even 12 but ull stop growing before that prob

[HIZZO]

Should I do HCG through out the cycle or save it for PCT? What are your thoughts on adding T3 and cycling clen (2 weeks on 2weeks out)? I just want to be obscenely shredded for summer.

[mickdiesel]

I'd save clen for pct and leave t3 for when ur bigger. I'm running it but its because I was 5'7" and 241 with a 16% bf. I can afford to lose a little mass and still look good. u can run hcg, its always a plus. I've never used it myself and therefore am uncomfortable advising on it. I've never experienced its effects so I'd only be regurgitating things I've read.

I'd run ur cycle like this:

1-4 var 80mg/ed
1-10 or12 mast 100mg/ed
9-12 var 100mg/ed or winny 75mg/ed
u can substitue primo for mast at the same duration and dosage

run clen in pct start at 20mcg/ed and go up from there

2 on 2 off with the clen, benadryl once a day for the time ur off. to kep the fat burning on while off clen u can run an eca stack. E is 25mg 3x daily, C is 150 to 200mg 3x daily and A is 300mg 3x daily

[HIZZO]

Thanks for taking the time Caban, much appreciated.

[mickdiesel]

no prob dude

[taiboxa]

Wow, say goodbye to your cholesterol after that cycle, comon man u need to plan it out better like others said...

CD

ROFL thats wat i was thinking
who cares bout the liver when your LDL is 300 and your HDL is -31