The fat around the mid-section question

[mkv213]

For the past month or so I've been doing am cardio empty stomach a few days a week (1000 cal). Lifting 5 days a week. The fat around my mid-section was melting like butter. The love handles went first, the from my sides inward toward my abs. But all of a sudden, it's seemed to slow. Is this just the order the fat usually goes away. I've noticed that hardly any of the fat around my lower abs has gone away. Is that the last to go usually? My diet is very clean and good. I've been eating 6 meals a day 2.5-3 hrs apart.

Why the sudden slowing of progress? And why won't any of the fat around my lower abs lessen?

Any advice is appreciated

thx
mkv213

[gigem]

usualy the first to go on is the first to go

[mkv213]

usualy the first to go on is the first to go

What do you mean?

[perfect_illusion]

the first place u notice it the most is usually the last to come off like abs lowerback and chest is what i think he ment " usualy the first to go on is the first to go"

[Doc.Sust]

you cant just lose weight in one area of the body, there is no such thing as spot reduction. when one burns fat is from all the entire fat D E Posits in the entire body, not just a particular section, if you fell you have slowed down in burning fat, it is slowed down everywhere, not just in one area.

[mateo112]

your body probably has got used to the diet and training (cardio). probably want to switch up the diet a little and definatly switch up the cardio.

[ACpower]

agree with the above try different cardio machines maybe up ur time

[MFT81]

your going to need to post your diet up in the diet forum, you've got a great start but now will need to see what changes we can make,

as far as changing things like more carido, and overall doing workouts diff most people hurt more than they help, for now keep doing what has been working and well help with diet......

[AandF6969]

Definately post up your diet for critique.

Also, what heart rate and length of time is your cardio sessions?

[mkv213]

Diet
NOTE: Full meals, meat varies day to day but that's the selection.

Meal 1
6 egg whites, 1 pk oatmeal

Meal 2 Protein shake

Meal 3 Steak/chkn/2 cans tuna, broc, brown rice

Meal 4 berries, nuts/peanut butter

PWO meal Protein Shake

Meal 5 Steak/Chkn,2 cans tuna, green vegs,

Meal 6 Protein Shake (bed time)

Cardio:
30 - 45 min
HR 175-180

Age 28
Weight 130
Height 5 11
BF around 10%

[TR'05]

Your progress has, presumably, stalled due to your diet, which (no flame intended) needs to be worked on.

First, though, you say your weight is 130? Is this lbs? At 5'11" you look much, much larger in your avatar.

-Meal 2 I would replace the shake and have another solid meal
-Meal 2 I would make your pre workout meal
-For PWO add some carbohydrates to your PWO shake for glycogen replenishment.
-PPWO should look similar to your pre-workout meal.

All in all, most of your meal need work; however, to make proper criticisms I would need to know if, in fact, you do only weight 130lbs.

[max2extreme]

You are eating too much protein. way too much. very little fruit? Low veges... A lot of people "eat clean", but they usually arent getting the proper nutrients, their protein ratio is usually too high (your body can only utilize so much, then it gets stored as fat), and not enough carbs. Carbs are the ONLY macronutrient that fuels anaerobic activity. Carbs should make up most of your calorie percentage, even when cutting. protein should be between 1.6-2.0g per kg of bw.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

You may be surprised but I would up your carbs by another 50-60g (in the form of oats)...It will actually help you shed more fat...your metabolism is becoming complacent and winding down and I doubt doing anymore cardio would be healthy... if u up your carbs for the final few weeks, it will kick up your metabolism again..trust me, it works...this is tried and tested for me...done it for 3 cutting cycles already.. it really helps you shave off that last 2-3% of BF

[TR'05]

After reading max2ex's post, I may have been misreading your diet bro. I am assuming that "Meal 3 Steak/chkn/2 cans tuna, broc, brown rice"

would be Meal 3: Steak, Chicken, or 2 cans of tuna.....if you are taking down all at one meal way too much protein per meal.

[IronReload04]

You are eating too much protein. way too much. very little fruit? Low veges... A lot of people "eat clean", but they usually arent getting the proper nutrients, their protein ratio is usually too high (your body can only utilize so much, then it gets stored as fat), and not enough carbs. Carbs are the ONLY macronutrient that fuels anaerobic activity. Carbs should make up most of your calorie percentage, even when cutting. protein should be between 1.6-2.0g per kg of bw.

disagree about the protein.......digesting protien itself is a huge huge metabolism booster......also will spare muscle loss.

I am not aware of any bodybuilder who eats such low protein and eats mostly carbs(energy) while cutting

[mkv213]

After reading max2ex's post, I may have been misreading your diet bro. I am assuming that "Meal 3 Steak/chkn/2 cans tuna, broc, brown rice"

would be Meal 3: Steak, Chicken, or 2 cans of tuna.....if you are taking down all at one meal way too much protein per meal.

No dude, i'm not eating all of that meat, just 1 of those so i dont' get sick of one of the other. one day i'll eat chkn, the next tuna, the next chkn.....those are my options.

[mkv213]

Your progress has, presumably, stalled due to your diet, which (no flame intended) needs to be worked on.

First, though, you say your weight is 130? Is this lbs? At 5'11" you look much, much larger in your avatar.

-Meal 2 I would replace the shake and have another solid meal
-Meal 2 I would make your pre workout meal
-For PWO add some carbohydrates to your PWO shake for glycogen replenishment.
-PPWO should look similar to your pre-workout meal.

All in all, most of your meal need work; however, to make proper criticisms I would need to know if, in fact, you do only weight 130lbs.

Yep, 230...i was maybe 245 in that picture but my belly wasn't very cut.

[max2extreme]

disagree about the protein.......digesting protien itself is a huge huge metabolism booster......also will spare muscle loss.

I am not aware of any bodybuilder who eats such low protein and eats mostly carbs(energy) while cutting

Believe who you will, my info comes from medical studies and my sports nutrition classes, who are all taught by RDs. For the most part, intakes greater than 2.0g/kg cannot be utilized by the body due to an increase in amino acid oxidation.

1. Tipton KD, Wolfe RR. Protein and amino acids for athletes. J Sports Sc. 2004

2. Phillips SM. Protein requirements and supplementation in strength sports. Nutr. 2004

Those "bodybuilders" you know, have they ever tried "such low protein" and eat mostly carbs while cutting? If not, then they cant say their way is better. The fact of the matter is, your body can only utilize a certain amount of protein, contrary to popular belief it seems. And that extra protein is stored as fat. Now the more lean muscle you have, the more fat your burn. So, do you stop lifting while cutting? No. You continue to lift. What is the ONLY macronutrient that provides energy for anaerobic activity? Carbs. You cut your carbs, your workouts start to take a hit. Your workouts take a hit, you build less muscle. The less muscle you are "building", the less protein you need. If you keep up the same protein intake, while having crappy workouts due to less carbs, more protein gets unused and stored, thus hindering your cut. No matter if you are cutting, gaining, maintaining, you should always eat more carbs than protein.

From ACSM: "Hence, dieting athletes should be sure to have a strong protein intake (at least 0.5 gm pro/lb)." .5g/lb is a "strong protein intake". Perhaps your bodybuilding friends should stop believing articles written by people who get paid by protein shakes.


http://www.athletesadvisor.com/nutrition/june03.htm

[Toenail Juice Z]

disagree about the protein.......digesting protien itself is a huge huge metabolism booster......also will spare muscle loss.

I am not aware of any bodybuilder who eats such low protein and eats mostly carbs(energy) while cutting

agree 100%. Decreasing protein intake and increasing Carbs while CUTTING is just laughable..

key is very high protein as always, moderate-low carbs. keep carbs to an absolute minimum coz on your cardio days instead of burning fat you'll be burning glycogen from all the carbs It's also common sense. Carbs are an energy source, hence contain more calories...carbs and fats (duh) IMO are a NO NO if your cutting.

Sure the body can only utilize a certain amount of protein..I don't disagree with that but IMO only 1g/pound of bodyweight is sufficient. And I'm not saying cut your carbs...just lower them significantly.