5th cycle Bulk to Cut

[Consistency]

Ok, I dont plan on doing this cycle for about another 4 months but its always smart to start planning in advance.

I've always done either a bulk cycle or cutting cycle, I have never combined the two. So heres my idea

wk 1-12 Test E 1000mg
wk 1-14 EQ 600mg
wk 13-22 Test Prop 150mg ED
wk 13-20 Tren 75mg ED
wk 13-22 Var 75mg ED

wk 9-13, 16-19, 22-25 IGF-LR3 80mcg PWO
wk 10-22 HCG 500iu twice a week
wk 1-22 Nolva ED

PCT 100mg clomid ED 4 weeks
20mg Nolva ED 4 weeks

I think I covered everything... whatta ya think?

[Consistency]

up for 4 days and still no comments??

[andye]

this is what i was planning for my present cycle but no one commented on my thread either,

i was gonna do

prop 100mgs ed 1-8
drol 100mgs ed 1-4
tren 75mgs ed 5-8
pct etc

i was gonna bulk whilst on the drol then switch to a cutter when i swap to the tren. tbh though im staying pretty lean so im just gonna play it by ear and see how i go

[Consistency]

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[taiboxa]

Ok, I dont plan on doing this cycle for about another 4 months but its always smart to start planning in advance.

I've always done either a bulk cycle or cutting cycle, I have never combined the two. So heres my idea

wk 1-12 Test E 1000mg
wk 1-14 EQ 600mg
wk 13-22 Test Prop 150mg ED
wk 13-20 Tren 75mg ED
wk 13-22 Var 75mg ED

wk 9-13, 16-19, 22-25 IGF-LR3 80mcg PWO
wk 10-22 HCG 500iu twice a week
wk 1-22 Nolva ED

PCT 100mg clomid ED 4 weeks
20mg Nolva ED 4 weeks

I think I covered everything... whatta ya think?

i woudnt bulk w/ eq for sure, 2ndly not really a whole lot of difference between 500mg/wk of test and 2g/wk of test.. test seems to be a very limited androgen w/ pathetic anabolic properties. definetly lower the test and induce a stronger aas inplace of eq, either a nor group or strong dht-since diet dictates body compositional changes.

so i.e.
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 1-12 deca 600mg
wk 13-22 Test Prop 75mg ED
wk 13-20 Tren 75mg ED
wk 17-22 win 75mg ED

wk 9-13, 16-19, 22-25 IGF-LR3 100mcg PWO
(personaly experience i would raise this to 100ug at any time during the day, personally for cutting i like AM pre cardio and for bulking i prefer a pre and post workout split)

wk 10-22 HCG 500iu twice a week
(not really ideal imo.. maybe the last 2 weeks prior to pct it would be wise to run but throughout whole cycle IMO doesnt really make much of a recovery difference vs prior pct protocol.)

wk 1-12 aromasin 12.5mg if ur prone to progest issues i suggest u lower test and add letro at a minimal dose.

[taiboxa]

bump this for ya for my own personal recognition and self worth!

[Consistency]

i woudnt bulk w/ eq for sure, 2ndly not really a whole lot of difference between 500mg/wk of test and 2g/wk of test.. test seems to be a very limited androgen w/ pathetic anabolic properties. definetly lower the test and induce a stronger aas inplace of eq, either a nor group or strong dht-since diet dictates body compositional changes.

so i.e.
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 1-12 deca 600mg
wk 13-22 Test Prop 75mg ED
wk 13-20 Tren 75mg ED
wk 17-22 win 75mg ED

wk 9-13, 16-19, 22-25 IGF-LR3 100mcg PWO
(personaly experience i would raise this to 100ug at any time during the day, personally for cutting i like AM pre cardio and for bulking i prefer a pre and post workout split)

wk 10-22 HCG 500iu twice a week
(not really ideal imo.. maybe the last 2 weeks prior to pct it would be wise to run but throughout whole cycle IMO doesnt really make much of a recovery difference vs prior pct protocol.)

wk 1-12 aromasin 12.5mg if ur prone to progest issues i suggest u lower test and add letro at a minimal dose.

thanks for the reply... I think im gonna stick with EQ since it makes me so hungry which is good when bulking. I'll bump the IGF up to 100mg, just got save a little more money. The most test ive done is 750mg, im gonna try a gram this go around and see how my body reacts.

thanks for the advice tho

[Consistency]

also i dont like winny because it dries my joints out too much and kills my elbows

[Titleist]

Why not throw in Masteron instead of the Var? 75-100mg/ED? Unless you are fond of Var that is what I would do.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Hey bro, my suggestions in caps

Ok, I dont plan on doing this cycle for about another 4 months but its always smart to start planning in advance.

I've always done either a bulk cycle or cutting cycle, I have never combined the two. So heres my idea

ADD VAR WKS 1-5
wk 1-12 Test E 1000mg - REDUCE TO 750MG
wk 1-14 EQ 600mg -REDUCE TO 500 MG AND RUN TO WK 20
wk 13-22 Test Prop 150mg ED REDUCE TO 100MG ED
wk 13-20 Tren 75mg ED - STOP AT WK 18
wk 13-22 Var 75mg ED - END VAR AT WK 17 (5 WKS) - PUT THIS CHUNK AT WKS 1-5 LIKE I SUGGESTED ABOVE

wk 9-13, 16-19, 22-25 IGF-LR3 80mcg PWO - DROP IGF WKS 16-19 - TREN WILL ALREADY SPIKE YOUR IGF LEVELS IN THIS TIME FRAME ANYWAY
wk 10-22 HCG 500iu twice a week IMO, DO 2 3-WK HCG BOUTS FOR WKS 13-15 AND 21-23 500IU ED. START PCT WK 24
wk 1-22 Nolva ED ADD PROVIRON ED AND KEEP BROMO OR CABERGOLINE HANDY

PCT 100mg clomid ED 4 weeks
20mg Nolva ED 4 weeks

I think I covered everything... whatta ya think? MY GENERAL IMPRESSION IS THAT YOU ARE USING DOSAGES THAT ARE VERY STRONG WHEN IT DOESNT NEED TO BE..AND YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER YOUR ANCILLARIES TO REFLECT THE COMPOUNDS YOU ARE TAKING. FURTHERMORE, EQ CAN BE RUN ALL THE WAY THROUGH

[Consistency]

Hey bro, my suggestions in caps

thanks for the advice

heres is my new cycle

wk 1-12 Test E 750mg
wk 1-20 EQ 600mg
wk 13-22 Test Prop 100mg ED
wk 13-19 Tren 75mg ED
wk 13-22 Var 75mg ED

wk 9-13, 22-25 IGF-LR3 100mcg PWO
wk 19-22 HCG 500iu twice a week
wk 1-22 Nolva ED

PCT 100mg clomid ED 4 weeks
20mg Nolva ED 4 weeks


ive never had any progesterone problems with tren... and i can get bromo whenever if for some reason i do need it.

I love var, so im gonna use it instead of mast. And I rather run it at the end of the cycle when im cutting instead at the beginning while im bulking.

[Titleist]

Cycle looks good bro.

I hear you about the Var. I think it's pretty much a hate it or love it type of compound for most people.

You thought about keeping a log on this one? I for one would definitely be interested. I'm thinking you're gonna see some huge changes in your body composition.

Good Luck.

[taiboxa]

Cycle looks good bro.

I hear you about the Var. I think it's pretty much a hate it or love it type of compound for most people.

You thought about keeping a log on this one? I for one would definitely be interested. I'm thinking you're gonna see some huge changes in your body composition.

Good Luck.

i hate it, my gf loves it.. lol

[Consistency]

Cycle looks good bro.

I hear you about the Var. I think it's pretty much a hate it or love it type of compound for most people.

You thought about keeping a log on this one? I for one would definitely be interested. I'm thinking you're gonna see some huge changes in your body composition.

Good Luck.

im not startin till sept 1st, so its gonna be awhile