please explain how u can take dht blocker and still have gains using a dht derivitive

[mickdiesel]

if u take something like fina or dutast to save ur hair, how does the dht u are taking work? from what I understand dutast occupies the part of the ar that dht normally occupies, rendering it useless by molecular exclusion. if this is the case how can u take say winny or ast and still have gains. I know winny and mast are dht themselves but they convert into dht partially and exact effectivenes through that mechanism. if anyone can explain I'd apprecite it. thanks bros

[Random]

Well to put it very brief i used a DHT blocker for about a year (stupid me) i was paranoid etc, however i still made amazing gains during that time even tho i was natural..the point is that DHT blockers severely (for me) decreased my strength as they should, however u can still train hard and train intensely, so while i was struggglin with lighter weights than i normall use--i was still breaking down the muscle and providing it with good nutrition so it really didnt slow me down at all, just lowered my weight numbers...and using a DHT derived compound during use of a blocker can still work too...

CD

[mickdiesel]

does it not severely deminish the effectiveness? like if u take say 50mg of winstrol does it work like only 20 or 30?

[Random]

does it not severely deminish the effectiveness? like if u take say 50mg of winstrol does it work like only 20 or 30?

No but if your DHT blocker is systemic..meaning working not just in local areas like the scalp--then it will make you look "softer" but it wont directly decrease the effects of winstrol for example

CD

[mickdiesel]

well I don't understand the science behind it but if u say so then I believe it. from the size of ur back u look as if u know what ur talking about

[Random]

well I don't understand the science behind it but if u say so then I believe it. from the size of ur back u look as if u know what ur talking about

Thanks caban! well if you are prone to hairloss i would use a DHT blocker with any test cycle, and stick to the low androgenic steroids like anavar/tbol/eq...

CD

[mickdiesel]

ur welcome cd! well I think my next cycle is going to look like this, tell me what u think and tell me if ud change it:
1-18 prop 800mg
1-15 eq 1000mg
1-16 mast 800mg
1-4 tbol 50mg/ed
15-18 tbol 50mg/ed

how do u feel about the dosages? specifically on the tbol and mast as I have no experience with them. I am also wondering what dosage to run hcg at. I wan to use it because it will be a long cycle. and last not but not least. what would u og with for an ai? aromasin? letro? liquidex? thanks so much, I value your opinion

[mickdiesel]

stats:
5'7"
228lbs
13%
5 cycles

[Random]

Personally i like aromasin, i would go aromasin at 12.5mg ED...

i think for first time, definitely that your masteron dose is too high, and again, if youre prone to hairloss, masteron will make it worse...i would use 400mg per wk of mast prop and see how u do,

if you use HCG i would go 500ius every 3-5 days...

CD

[mickdiesel]

I've run prop the last few times @ 700mg/week. if I ran 500mg this time do u think it would be as effective?

[Random]

Yea i dont think theres too much of a difference from 500-700mg

CD

[mickdiesel]

and the tbol?

[Random]

50mg is fine on the Tbol