opinion on this cycle pls.....

[Allycat111]

Hey guys, I posted a thread before..
I'm a pro rugby player looking to do a cutting and strength cycle thats out of my system in the shortest posible time..
Had a talk to a supplier, who's also a power lifter..
He sugested stan (injec) and metanabol (tabs)...
I would like to know what you guys thing and also what pct I should use...

[perfectbeast2001]

I think that stan (winstrol) would be pretty lame for what you are looking for (added size and strength im guessing). I would run test E 500mg EW (shots) and you could run the methan (dbol) for the first 4 weeks to get you started.
Winny (stan) is hard on the joints, and while being great for BBers due to the hard defined look it helps produce at low enoguh BF I cant see it being great for rugby. Test will add size, agression and strength and help lube the joints and aid recovery.
I would suggest running Anthony Roberts PCT which can be found in the stickies within the PCT forums here.
Never get cycle advice from suppliers, there main aim is to sell you the product that makes them the most money (or the one they have in abundance in there stock that they need to shift).

[MASTER]

winny and dbol are pretty much the opposite of each other, so i wouldnt bother combining them, plus its not a particularly good idea to run 2 orals at the same time unless you know how you tolerate them.

[Allycat111]

the main thing I'm looking for is to cut and then add strength...
The problem with test for me is that the detection time is too long..

[Allycat111]

I understand the effects of each...

[MASTER]

A lot of strength athletes ive known do a lot of suspension, coz its out in double quick time, but u have the bitch of at least daily injections

[Allycat111]

Fair call with the suspension..
Would that do the trick with fat loss too??
what could i combine with that??

[MASTER]

Fair call with the suspension..
Would that do the trick with fat loss too??
what could i combine with that??

Gear isnt gona help a huge amount with fatloss, its all down to diet and cardio im afraid

[Allycat111]

OK..
So if u were to give me a cycle that would help with cutting and strength, what would you sugest??
Bulking is not very important as I am more or less where I should be, If I loose or gain 5kg's, its no biggie..

[Consistency]

OK..
So if u were to give me a cycle that would help with cutting and strength, what would you sugest??
Bulking is not very important as I am more or less where I should be, If I loose or gain 5kg's, its no biggie..

test prop 75mg ed
tren 50mg ed
pct

[Allycat111]

tren has a long detection time mate...
Problem..
I do need something to help cut though...

[Allycat111]

guys??

[Allycat111]

I can get my hands on testoviron and anablol...
What do u guys think bout that option rather than the winny??
And does anyone know about tribolan?? Effectiveness and detection times??