Suggestions for Endurance Athlete?

[epno]

I'd appreciate suggestions that would work for a strength building program for a fourty something male endurance athlete. I don't want to build excessive muscle mass and would prefer to focus on strength. If possible I'd like to do short cycles (4 days on 3 off) to avoid side effects. Drug testing is always possible at the events I compete in on a weekly basis. I was thinking about oxandrolone but it stays in the system 3 weeks?

6/7/07 Update. I'm planning to try Oxandrolone for 8-12 weeks (***ending on the dosage I end up using) with Nolvadex, Clomid, and Proviron for PCT. I read an article on "pulsing" by "Dr. D" at http://forum.anabolicx.com/index.php?showtopic=1773 . Sounds like something that might work for my situation. I plan on starting with 20 mg oxandrolone per day and going up to 60 mg per day as needed for 3-4 days per week. I'm considering only dosing in the AM pre workout and skipping the post workout dose because the 9 hour half life should leave plenty in my system to aid in recovery while allowing me to avoid shut down: I know that limits my gains, but I want to stay lean and gain strength only. On my off days I'd like to use an otc anti catabolic. Is phosphatidylserine an adequate choice? I could also use Tribex and GH Max on my off days to keep things rolling too. The pulsing article states that PCT wouldn't be needed after 4 weeks of pulsing. If I go 8-12 would I need PCT? How could I tell? This is going to be my first cycle. I have used androstendione and prednisone in the past: I found out prednisone is catabolic and started looking for an better way.

PS I posted this in the cycles section too and will update results as they become available.

[guero21]

Stay away from Tren! It kills your stamina, It just doesnt mix with endurance athletes

[lacey231]

figured this might be a decent thread to post this in.

Has anybody tried Erythropoietin (EPO)?

The description says : is a primary growth factor which helps regulate the red blood cell formation. Endurance athletes are highly attracted to this compound because of its effect on red blood cell production. The chemical doping effect of EPO is the same as the traditional doping effect of removing the blood from the body and letting the body to remake the lost volume afterwards adding the removed amount of blood to increase the number of red cells. The serious bodybuilder would find this compound effective for endurance and intensity of workout in the precontest prep as well as recovery which is due to the increased oxygen carrying capacity to the working muscles.




Ok...so how much do you take? I'd say you'll need about 8,000-10,000IU for 2 weeks. Thats it. You take it all at once over 2 weeks (maybe a little over 1,000IU or so per day for 14 days) and then thats it. Then, sometime in week 3, you'll start feeling the results...which will last...for 3-6 months! Yeah, you read that right.

Watch your BP, and don't let it get out of hand, because that could mean your hematocrit is getting too high....
and remember to keep well hydrated to avoid any possible issues with clotting & keep some aspirin on hand just in case you find that you need to thin your blood out a bit.

[ginkobulloba]

EPO is the end all be all of drugs for endurance athletes. There doesn't appear to be too many people on this board with much working knowledge of EPO, but I've come across some other forums that have some experts on the stuff. It needs to be taken with caution and you need to be monitoring things regularly. It's very interesting to say the least and apparently you can basically run sprints all day and not even be tired. I don't have much of a reason to take this, but if I were an endurance athlete, I would def be looking into it.

[epno]

Lacy231,

Thanks for your post on this thread. You mention "A-50" as an alternative to EPO. What is A-50?

[Atomini]

From what I have read, Anadrol (Oxymetholone) is good for endurance because it increases the amount of the hormone (erythropoietin) involved in the production of red blood cells more than any other steroid, therefore allowing the muscle to absorb more oxygen. The muscle thus has a higher endurance and performance level.

The thing is that i've also read that Anadrol is the most powerful steroid out there, and adds mass and strength EXTREMELY fast (30 lbs in less than 6 weeks type of thing). And the orals are the most liver toxic of any steroid.

[Property of Steroid.com]

There doesn't appear to be too many people on this board with much working knowledge of EPO,

Actually, I've used a rare EPOrp, and work with several track and field athletes who use EPO alpha and ***** with their athletes.

In addition, EPO is popular with a certain contest prep coach in Texas, for volumizing and killing the appetite.

[QUOTE]From what I have read, Anadrol (Oxymetholone) is good for endurance because it increases the amount of the hormone (erythropoietin) involved in the production of red blood cells more than any other steroid, therefore allowing the muscle to absorb more oxygen

From what I have read, Anadrol (Oxymetholone) is good for endurance because it increases the amount of the hormone (erythropoietin) involved in the production of red blood cells more than any other steroid, therefore allowing the muscle to absorb more oxygen

It's good for endurance in the gym, as in doing more sets and reps with high weights...it's not goot for sports endurance (i.e. something that doesn't involve picking up a weight and putting it down 10x).

[Atomini]

It's good for endurance in the gym, as in doing more sets and reps with high weights...it's not goot for sports endurance (i.e. something that doesn't involve picking up a weight and putting it down 10x).

Ah, okay I see. There's a difference there.

[epno]

Anthony, is there any advantage to the EPOrp, EPO alpha, and the other version that's marked out on your thread over regular EPO?

[hoopcat528]

I am also a 40 something endurance athlete, have never tried EPO but heard it is good.

Anavar is a great choice, you might gain 5 to 10 pounds max but will lose lots of bodyfat %. Deca is a good choice in a low dose (100 to 200 mg per week) as it will lube your joints and increase red blood cell count. With a good lean diet, you should really not gain more than 5 to 10 pounds.

I just ran a half marathon while cycling 100 mg per week deca and 250 mg per week test, (I wanted anavar but could not get it.)

I have never tried the whole idea of 4 days on, 3 days off. I do not think you need to do that to minimize side effects, since the cycles we are describing are very low dose (and therefore low side effect) anyway.

I am checked by my doc regularly and he only complains about my high red blood cell count. Everything else (blood pressure, psa levels, cholesterol, etc.) is great.