Eq vs Tbol (Only cycles)

[manwitplans]

Tbol:

1-8: 70mg/day

OR

Equipose:

1-14: 600mg/w

Which one would you guys go for, if you absolutely had to stick with one of these cycles?

Which ones do you think you`d keep most of the gains with?

Which ones would yield more strength, or/and mass?

I know many run these cycles by them selves, some with better luck then others, so come with your personal EXPERIENCES. Stay off this post if you are trying to flame my ass, please do not recommend me other things, "why don`t throw in some test?". Just answer the questions if you can, thanks

[Decoder]

AN eq only cycle would suck big time.. NO TEST NO CYCLE SQWAK!!!

[manwitplans]

AN eq only cycle would suck big time.. NO TEST NO CYCLE SQWAK!!!

Well there came one bad answer.
C`mon people, answer seriously.
And answer the QUESTIONS I ASKED.

[JMC]

Well I can say from expierience that an eq only cycle will shut you down, And you will not be able to get hard without at least maint. dose of test....thats your call though, eq gave insane pumps and vascularity, not too much mass though....im currently on tbol so I cant yet comment on it...

[manwitplans]

Okey, so if the eq only will shut me down, and I don`t want to run test with that.

My only choice are to run Tbol alone then.

[1buffsob]

I've ran both. Both were weak. IMO, it'd be pretty worthless running them by themselves. If I HAD to choose, I'd probably do the EQ.

[JMC]

yea....or proviron @50 mg ed with the eq and you will have no libido issues.

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

before people will coment on, and give advice you will have to give your stats:
Age
height
weight
cycle experience

Can only comment on tbol but gained bout 14lbs lean muscle and seemed to have kept most of it, strength was wasnt crazy but generally i liked this compound.

[manwitplans]

I've ran both. Both were weak. IMO, it'd be pretty worthless running them by themselves. If I HAD to choose, I'd probably do the EQ.

Okey.
What will "weak" say?

If I run this 14 weeks
Very hard and intense workouts
Good diet
500-1000kcal over what my body uses.

Would i yield much results for this?
Really not looking for something extraordinary, maybe a little more strength then I would get without, and a few pounds of musclemass.

[manwitplans]

yea....or proviron @50 mg ed with the eq and you will have no libido issues.

Okey, than i`d rather run the TBOL thats for sure.

Proviron @ 50mgs/day
And EQ @ 600/w

Get`s pretty expensive here.

[manwitplans]

before people will coment on, and give advice you will have to give your stats:
Age
height
weight
cycle experience

Can only comment on tbol but gained bout 14lbs lean muscle and seemed to have kept most of it, strength was wasnt crazy but generally i liked this compound.

Age: 24
Heigth: 184
Weight: 95kgs
Bodyfat: 15-16 (ish)
Cycle exp: None

Well 14lbs is pretty good, i`m not looking for anything more then that, happy if i even get 10lbs.

What about your cycle boy?
Length?
Dosage pr day?
What kind of Tbol tabs were they?

[Megaherz]

I'm currently running tbol and already have used eq.
People have had different results on this forum but I have to say
from my own experience that I didn't notice anything from eq at all.
The gear was definitely legit, it's just a really weak compound in my
opinion. So I would say go with the tbol. I've noticed increased
vascularity, muscle hardness, and a bit of strength gain, but it's
just barely starting to kick in since I'm only in about the fourth week.

[manwitplans]

I'm currently running tbol and already have used eq.
People have had different results on this forum but I have to say
from my own experience that I didn't notice anything from eq at all.
The gear was definitely legit, it's just a really weak compound in my
opinion. So I would say go with the tbol. I've noticed increased
vascularity, muscle hardness, and a bit of strength gain, but it's
just barely starting to kick in since I'm only in about the fourth week.

What dosages/week were you running with EQ? and cycle length?

Sounds good bro!
What dosage pr day are you running of tbol?
Total length?
And what company are your compound from?
Are you eating over/under what your body is burning?

[JMC]

Okey, than i`d rather run the TBOL thats for sure.

Proviron @ 50mgs/day
And EQ @ 600/w

Get`s pretty expensive here.
With a proper PCT: About over 1000bucks.

Price should not be an option though...you should buy everything you need, dont skip out on anything, esp. pct

[taiboxa]

wow, i know reading the rules is very difficult for the sub retarded to even handle but NO PRICE TALK!

and as for the poll... eq is by far the weakest and lamest compound out there imo... only good for vascularity...

TBOL.. meh its ok i guess nothing special there are far better alternatives.

[manwitplans]

I dont know what your source is, but that is extremely pricey for an eq/proviron cycle.

Price should not be an option though...you should buy everything you need, dont skip out on anything, esp. pct

Sorry about posting prices, please edit this out of your post aswell as I did.
Yeah it gets pretty high in cost over here (Norway..)

[JMC]

wow, i know reading the rules is very difficult for the sub retarded to even handle but NO PRICE TALK!

and as for the poll... eq is by far the weakest and lamest compound out there imo... only good for vascularity...

TBOL.. meh its ok i guess nothing special there are far better alternatives.

I had to say something after he said it that it would cost "over a thousand bucks".....and I am not part of the "sub-retarded" group you are referring to.

[manwitplans]

wow, i know reading the rules is very difficult for the sub retarded to even handle but NO PRICE TALK!

and as for the poll... eq is by far the weakest and lamest compound out there imo... only good for vascularity...

TBOL.. meh its ok i guess nothing special there are far better alternatives.

Okey then bro.
What would you recommend then? Besides TEST (no test involved).

[Decoder]

eq should be a supplement not a steriod lol,

Dude you need test stop tip toeing around it!

[manwitplans]

eq should be a supplement not a steriod lol,

Dude you need test stop tip toeing around it!

Going for test in 1 year when I move away from this smalltown.
I would like to beat a little around the bush before then you see

[Decoder]

Well there came one bad answer.
C`mon people, answer seriously.
And answer the QUESTIONS I ASKED.

I said sqawk for a reason if hellmask still has his avatar picture the same, it has a picture of a parrot saying what i said lol.

[Decoder]

anavar/winny? with a big diet high on caloires.

[manwitplans]

anavar/winny? with a big diet high on caloires.

Anavar gets WAY to expensive over here bro, talking sick money.

Winstrol is kinda interesting tho.

Buddy of mine have just ran winnie by itself.
Gained 16-17 pounds.
Gained about 15-20kgs to his bench.

[Decoder]

yeah its unsual to gain over 10 pounds on that stuff , i gain about 4lbs. on winny.

[manwitplans]

yeah its unsual to gain over 10 pounds on that stuff , i gain about 4lbs. on winny.

***ens much on the diet aswell, ofcourse.

[Megaherz]

I believe I used 400mg of eq/wk, like I said it did nothing.
Actually var and tbol are super cheap if you buy powder
from overseas and make liquid orals yourself which is really
easy especially suspending in Bacardi 151 at 10mg/ml. I'm currently
taking 100mg/var and 60mg/tbol ed.

[taiboxa]

Okey then bro.
What would you recommend then? Besides TEST (no test involved).

i recommend u stop posting and start reading.

[manwitplans]

i recommend u stop posting and start reading.

Atleast give me a constructive reason as why.
"Test should be the base in every cycle".

I have read alot, just pocking around to see what I could use until I use test in about a year.

[manwitplans]

I believe I used 400mg of eq/wk, like I said it did nothing.
Actually var and tbol are super cheap if you buy powder
from overseas and make liquid orals yourself which is really
easy especially suspending in Bacardi 151 at 10mg/ml. I'm currently
taking 100mg/var and 60mg/tbol ed.

Really don`t know where to get my hands on that though
And.. it will probably be stopped by customes!

[goose]

Stop posting and please read punk!!!!

[manwitplans]

Stop posting and please read punk!!!!

Hehe..

[taiboxa]

Atleast give me a constructive reason as why.
"Test should be the base in every cycle".

I have read alot, just pocking around to see what I could use until I use test in about a year.

why test should be the base? well its de'pendent upon many variables and an individuals response to different types of exogenous hormones.

this is a very common question btw and the search button would easily illeviate you of this ''unkown''... but since u asked i will answer.

many stronger aas's i.e. the nor groups cause complete suppression of your endogenous testosterone production but can not be syntesized/utilized in the same manner as testosterone to maintain normal hormonal/phsyiological functions.

so to combat this i.e. impotence/de'pression/loss of libido/lack of mental wellbeing- we substitute this suppressed test production w/a synthetic exogenous test to maintain these physiological functions that the body would otherwise not be able to perform.

does not mean u have to run test w/ every cycle, but it doesnt hurt to run a testosterone replacement dose when ur utilizing compounds that cuase large to complete suppression.

some people can handle this "shutdown" perfectly fine and dont even lose a stride in their libido... others go through complete breakdown w/o test.

so this is why test should be the base in most cycles.

yet like all aspects of life there are exceptions.

such as var only, eq only, and other cycles that utilize compounds that cause only MILD suppressio of endogenous hormones and do not require the substitution of synthetic test to maintain a "norm".

no i did not grammar/spell check this so if there are type'O's i dont kare.

[taiboxa]

and outta respect for the time it took to ripost to your interrogative statement i ask that you do not post another redundent question for atleast 3 weeks, thanks.

[manwitplans]

Thank you for the useful information.
Was about time somebody put that in my head.

[Johny-too-small]

Whats up with all the newbs calling out senior members and Vets lately???

[taiboxa]

Whats up with all the newbs calling out senior members and Vets lately???

welcome to the SUMMER CROWED, its nothing new-just a seasonal change... luckily today was a refeed day for me so im not as pissy as usual when im dieting

[lex57]

i never knew @$$hole was a season tai........ but i guess with all these newbies to teach us here we should learn ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! why dont some mods and vets get together and make it so no newbies can start a thread until 100 posts. except for vantheman he has to get 10000. he has two of the same threads started. should change his name to vantheidiot.

[1buffsob]

Tai, that was one of the best posts I've ever seen from you. You must of ate well today. Haha