Masteron = temporary gains?

[TripleX19]

Have heard a lot of good things about both Anavar and Masteron. As far as keeping my gains is concerned, which one is better. Will not likely stack with anything else. Diet will be completely structured along with a serious hypertrophy workout. Wich one will be better for building solid, retainable gains. I have also read both profiles, and know about each one. Really just want to know from some of you who have experience with each or have educated opinions.

[GHO5T]

Keeping gains from different AAS compounds will all ***end on what you do after discontinuing the compound(s). How your diet, workout, and PCT is setup after your cycle will determine how much you keep and lose.

One can run Var and make nice gains after all said and done, if that users PCT along with their diet and training after the cycle is on point then they will retain much more of the gains made.

One can run masteron and make solid gains on cycle but if the user has a sloppy PCT including their diet and workout, gains will diminish quite fast afterward.

~GHO5T~

[TripleX19]

Right, I understand that. I have just heard that the gains with Masteron are harder to retain. Overall, which one would you prefer considering good pct and maintence?

[taiboxa]

diet mostly and pct will dictate your gain retention.

[TripleX19]

got ya .. in general though, wich one promotes more gains? I really like the pro's of anavar, but a buddy of mine has suggested Masteron over Anavar. Said that it was better. anyways, I was totally set on var until now. didn 't know if you guys had a preference.

[vanquisher]

is this your first cycle?

[TripleX19]

yes this will be my first one. Will be running either one solo with nolvadex for pct. if I run anavar, will be 80mg ED for 8 weeks

[vanquisher]

just a thought you may want to do a little more research before jumping into the cycle..from wht i have read test E 500mg week is a great first cycle, lets you see how your bod will react and all... well good luck

[king6]

Will be running either one solo

No test in there? The gains wont be as good, and you run the risk of getting shut down. Granted you have a DHT, which is not as harsh as a 19 nor, but still has the potential. If it is your first cycle, just run test by itself, then you can worry about the others later.

[TripleX19]

Well, I thought that Anavar doesn't aromatize ... and it won't shut you down. From what I have read, doing a cycle of Test has more potential to shut you down than var.

[taiboxa]

Well, I thought that Anavar doesn't aromatize ... and it won't shut you down. From what I have read, doing a cycle of Test has more potential to shut you down than var.

test completely shuts you down.

[king6]

Well, I thought that Anavar doesn't aromatize ... and it won't shut you down. From what I have read, doing a cycle of Test has more potential to shut you down than var.

Enough var can shut you down. All steroids have the potential to shut you down, just some more than others.

[TripleX19]

.. have done lots of research. Was debating for many weeks about running the test. I don't think i'm ready for the test yet. Together with the var, I think I will put on some serious weight. Right now, I'm looking forward to the strength gains, body def. and possibly 5-8 lbs of weight gain. I think I have decided to run Var over Masteron. Will be taking 75-80mg ED, broke down in 2 doses. Will probably run Nolvadex for 20,20,10,10 afterwords. Will post diet as soon as I get the gear on hand.

[king6]

.. have done lots of research. Was debating for many weeks about running the test. I don't think i'm ready for the test yet. Together with the var, I think I will put on some serious weight. Right now, I'm looking forward to the strength gains, body def. and possibly 5-8 lbs of weight gain. I think I have decided to run Var over Masteron. Will be taking 75-80mg ED, broke down in 2 doses. Will probably run Nolvadex for 20,20,10,10 afterwords. Will post diet as soon as I get the gear on hand.

I think it is a common fact that most people overestimate what a cycle can do for them. I know I did. I put on 20 lbs with test and var, but looked only slightly bigger. It was not what I thought, but that is ok, that is why we do more than one cycle. Just don't expect to be a completley different person after one cycle, especially after masteron and var. You say you are not ready for test? Test is what everyone should start with, and what most people do. I would do some more research, I think you are setting yourself up for dissapointment with a cycle like that.

[Kimo27]

what do you guys mean by "shut you down"

[TripleX19]

yeah, I'm not expecting to change that much .. thats why I don't want to include the Test. 5-8 lbs of muscle on me would be a noticable diff. Many guys have done well with just a var cycle. Will still think about adding test. Massive gains are not my concern though.

[Kimo27]

im pretty sure you can gain 5-8 pounds naturally, a friend of mine gained 10 pound using GNC products.

[king6]

what do you guys mean by "shut you down"

Supressing your HPTA, meaning you body will no longer produce its own testosterone.