Tren-A, Prop, Winny progress so far

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5'9
186.5
28
4th cycle
diet in check

weeks 1-6 tren a 75mg eod
weeks 1-8 prop 100mg eod
weeks 4-8 winny 60mg ed

pct nolva

I'm 2.5 weeks in. Diet is in check. doubled my cardio. I've lost 6 lbs so far and have seen a little bit of strength gain. But I am having a hard time figuring out if it has "kicked in" yet. I'm not seeing any sides at all. I'm a little hotter than normal but no real night sweats. No insomnia or crazy dreams. Today I'm actually feeling a bit warmer than normal. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones yea, but should this be the week where I really start to see results? I know everyones diff, but just in general I heard week 2-3 is when you really start to see gains/sides with Tren. Its my first run w tren

thanks!

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bump?

[testisbest]

tren's dose is a little low IMO. Try shooting tren at 50mg daily.

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i don't wanna pin every day. What if I changed to

100mg tren a eod
150 mg prop eod

??

[Geeezer]

ED will keep you B/L closer. = less sides

[nrobleski]

i am doing 100eod and 150 eod im fine I'm sure we are not the only ones doing eod...plus blood levels vary on to many factors anyways, usually only effects you until your body has adapted to the new substances and you begin to build up..tren and prop can stay for as long as four days.

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so week 5 and I'm starting to see sides. piss is dark (2 gals of water a day). sweating constantly but really not that bad. My mood SUCKS. I'm very lethargic. Insomnia not so bad I have valium though. As far as gains, yea strength gains are huge. But after 5 weeks is it strange that I'm finally recognizing the sides or am I just lucky? I mean, I DEF see changes in my physique but am I still going to see more the next 2 weeks? ps I upped my dosage to 100mg eod from 75mg eod 2 weeks ago.


thanks

[testisbest]

tren might be underdosed. It's odd that the sides didn't start until after the first month. I started noticing sides with trenA about a week in and gained about 5 pounds in the 2 weeks that I ran it (had to quit cause I couldn't sleep). I know you said you doubled your cardio, how many cals are you taking in?

[taiboxa]

tren might be underdosed. It's odd that the sides didn't start until after the first month. I started noticing sides with trenA about a week in and gained about 5 pounds in the 2 weeks that I ran it (had to quit cause I couldn't sleep). I know you said you doubled your cardio, how many cals are you taking in?

imo .. at that dose of tren.. and still able to drop 6lbs and INCREASE strength.. somethings working ..

personally i would run 100mg EoD of both tren/prop and up the win to 75mg ED
get something else in there besides just nolva for pct too.. test shuts you down completely but tren/nor groups (i have heard/read) have suppressive metabolites (how suppressive BEATS ME!) that can possibly cause hinderence to recovery.

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sorry I should have been more specific.. 2 weeks ago my cycle changed to:

tren a 100mg eod
test p 150 mg eod
started winny last week at 60mg ed

winny is 20mg caps. should I up it to 80mg?
bodyfat is down a lot but was low already. I figured I'd put on some pounds even though cutting. taking in about 3300 cals

pct I have nolva and proviron
ok?

thx bros

[taiboxa]

sorry I should have been more specific.. 2 weeks ago my cycle changed to:

tren a 100mg eod
test p 150 mg eod
started winny last week at 60mg ed

winny is 20mg caps. should I up it to 80mg?
bodyfat is down a lot but was low already. I figured I'd put on some pounds even though cutting. taking in about 3300 cals

pct I have nolva and proviron
ok?

thx bros

hard to walk in 2directions at once homeskillet..

and 80mg would be more deal than 60 IMO

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ok switched to 80. 20 mg every 6 hours sound good?

What I meant was "muscle weights more than fat" so I didn't expect to lose weight but I love the way I look so whatevs.

Recently I've been feeling like a crybaby bitch. Any suggestions? Should I lower the prop dosage? Should I add in Nolva? or just deal with crying at episodes of Little People Big World?

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ok switched to 80. 20 mg every 6 hours sound good?

What I meant was "muscle weights more than fat" so I didn't expect to lose weight but I love the way I look so whatevs.

Recently I've been feeling like a crybaby bitch. Any suggestions? Should I lower the prop dosage? Should I add in Nolva? or just deal with crying at episodes of Little People Big World?

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Recently I've been feeling like a crybaby bitch. Any suggestions? Should I lower the prop dosage? Should I add in Nolva? or just deal with crying at episodes of Little People Big World?

[vitor]

Recently I've been feeling like a crybaby bitch. Any suggestions? Should I lower the prop dosage? Should I add in Nolva? or just deal with crying at episodes of Little People Big World?

Dont use nolva with tren, b/c it can upgrade the progesterone recepter, tren is a progestin.

Feeling like a crybaybe normally means elevated estrogen levels, add in letro or aromasin imo.

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good looks. I have letro, nolva, and proviron. my pct includes nolva/proviron

so I'm guessing I should add in letro right now before I start punching myself in the balls. how should I run it? .25/day?