PCT length

[Mista Massive]

OK,

This is my second cycle and decided to go with a shoter cycle length this time but with higher dosages.

my cycle will consist of the following:

week 1-4 Dbol @ 40mg/day (still undecided on using this in this cycle)
week 1-6 test prop @ 100mg/day
week 1-6 NPP @ 75mg/day
week 1-6 Adex @ 0.25mg/day
week 1-6 B6 @ 200mg/day

for my PCT i was considering: (3days after last shot of test prop and NPP)

day 1-30 Nolva @ 20mg/day
day 1-30 Clomid @ 100mg/day
day 1-30 Adex @ 0.25mg/day

My question is:

Is this a sufficient time for a PCT or too excessive. I am confused as it is a short cycle and have never used nandrolone before

Any opinions are welcome

[Anaholic]

with pct, its better to be safe than sorry.

[FlyByU]

OK,

This is my second cycle and decided to go with a shoter cycle length this time but with higher dosages.

my cycle will consist of the following:

week 1-4 Dbol @ 40mg/day (still undecided on using this in this cycle)
week 1-6 test prop @ 100mg/day
week 1-6 NPP @ 75mg/day
week 1-6 Adex @ 0.25mg/day
week 1-6 B6 @ 200mg/day

for my PCT i was considering: (3days after last shot of test prop and NPP)

day 1-30 Nolva @ 20mg/day
day 1-30 Clomid @ 100mg/day
day 1-30 Adex @ 0.25mg/day

My question is:

Is this a sufficient time for a PCT or too excessive. I am confused as it is a short cycle and have never used nandrolone before

Any opinions are welcome

100mg/day of clomid for 30 days is too much. Even 50mg/day of clomid is a large dose. You should also be tapering off your serms. Also, why adex during PCT? It's an aromatase inhibitor. Since test levels are low post cycle, you don't have to be concerned about aromatization! Taking adex post cycle drives estrogen levels down way too low. Arimidex also increases the number of estrogen receptors and also makes you more sensitive to the effects of estrogen.

[Mista Massive]

100mg/day of clomid for 30 days is too much. Even 50mg/day of clomid is a large dose. You should also be tapering off your serms. Also, why adex during PCT? It's an aromatase inhibitor. Since test levels are low post cycle, you don't have to be concerned about aromatization! Taking adex post cycle drives estrogen levels down way too low. Arimidex also increases the number of estrogen receptors and also makes you more sensitive to the effects of estrogen.

I'm basing my use of Adex and the doses of clomid based on Pheedno's PCT protocol. the evidence in his thread is the best conclusion i've come to out of all the research i've done

[perfectbeast2001]

30 days is not long enough for me, the importnat thing is that you run PCT until you feel it has worked, so there is no fixed time. I find that running the AI for 45 days and the SERM for 60 work well for me.

[Mista Massive]

30 days is not long enough for me, the importnat thing is that you run PCT until you feel it has worked, so there is no fixed time. I find that running the AI for 45 days and the SERM for 60 work well for me.

Thanks for the feedback.

When you say until it has worked, what exactly do you mean?

My last cycle i followed Pheedno's PCT and my sex drive went UP during PCT and stayed there afterwards. only difference was after the cycle and PCT i couldn't hold out as long during sex.

as for the training, it took a good month or 2 after PCT before i had to drop the weight a little bit.

So what should i be looking for to know whether i've recovered or not? Also, to prevent prolactin, is 200mg B6/ed gonna cut it??

[lifterjaydawg]

You can run your pct as long as you like. Anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks should be good. Better to be safe than sorry. Just run PCT until you feel comfortable.

[perfectbeast2001]

Thanks for the feedback.

When you say until it has worked, what exactly do you mean?

My last cycle i followed Pheedno's PCT and my sex drive went UP during PCT and stayed there afterwards. only difference was after the cycle and PCT i couldn't hold out as long during sex.

as for the training, it took a good month or 2 after PCT before i had to drop the weight a little bit.

So what should i be looking for to know whether i've recovered or not? Also, to prevent prolactin, is 200mg B6/ed gonna cut it??

libido is a good way to judge it, even better is blood work.

[Mista Massive]

libido is a good way to judge it, even better is blood work.

That's some common sense that i forgot about. thanks beast

i have changed my mind on dosage and cycle length. i would prefer to go with 75mg/day of test prop and the rest the same but for anywher up to 8 weeks, d e p ending on if my gains stop before then. good idea or not? since i am using the nandrolone, this would counter-act the use of a short cycle. i knew this from the beggining but was being stubborn about the situation.

i have decided to use letro during cycle to help with prevention of prolactin. along with around 100mg vitamin B6. is there anything i need to watch out for as far as estrogen rebound post cycle?

my PCT will now only be clomid + nolva.

also, last cycle i used 30mg/day of DBol, is it really necessary to bump that dosage up this time around? (i will be doing a small prime before beggining this cycle)

[rdj50006]

bump