1st Cycle TestC only..

[dingo2]

I am planning on running my first cycle in about 2 months. I am 28 and have been training for 4 years now. Starting out at 135 lbs approx 9% bf, on a diet of air and water. I am currently 5'11, 195lbs approx. 12% bf, and have my nutiritional needs figured out. About 4 years ago I purchased some TestE and then decided I wasnt ready two weeks prior to starting so I gave it to a friend. Four years have gone by now and I now want to go ahead and start a cycle. My plan is as follows:

Weeks 1-12 Test C @ 400 mg/week
Pct:
Starting 18 days after last dose
Day 1-14 Clomid 100mg
Day 14-28 Clomid 50 mg
Day 1-45 Arimidex .5mg

My question is regarding my plans for PCT. Originally I was planning on running Nolvadex along side the clomid without the Arimidex, but very experienced freind said Arimidex would probably be a beter idea. Do you guys agree?

I am also contemplating running Arimidex throughout the cycle @ .5mg per day. Good idea or not?

I plan on having Clomid, Arimidex, and Nolva on hand prior to starting in the event they are needed.

Thanks for your advice.

[Titleist]

Cycle looks good and nice job on waiting until you were ready.

As far as your PCT goes, you really just need to try different combinations/methods and see what works best for you. The best way to determine that is bloodwork. The only compounds needed for PCT, IMO, is A SERM and an AI.

Originally posted by Swifto:

Although the common consensus is to use Nolva over Clomid for PCT, I'm beginning to disagree. There are studies which suggest a low dose of Clomid (25mg/ED) will lead to a substantial increase in LH/FSH/T. None of this '300mg/ED day one' protocol. It simply isnt needed. This is when sides seem to arise and I believe this is why Clomid has its bad name amongst PCT compounds.

Nolva is also more effective in breast tissue than Clomid and better suiter for fighting gyno. Where as Clomid has a more effective action at the pituitary.
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Reading this, I would suggest running Clomid something like 5 weeks at 25mg/ED, along with Aromasin at 20mg/ED for the same period of time.

If you decide to run an Adex during cycle, .5mg EOD will be plenty. I think it is a good idea as it will help to control bloating.

Good luck.

[timidator34]

if you feel llike u need to. take .5mg a-dex every 2 days but i wouldnt start taking the a-dex till the 4th week on cycle. that is when it will all be kicking in. pct use nolva and clomid.used a-dex is on cycle if u feel like u need too and nolva and clomid for pct.. good luck bro

[getpumped24]

looks like you have it all figured out. i still like the nolve/clomid PCT, but that is what works well for me. it is good to have an AI in there too. glad to see someone wait for the right time for aas. good luck

[dupa95]

First of all nice post you got all your ducks in order. Nice to see. i am running the same cycle after the first of the year. The pct that was recomended to me was. (wk 13 to 14 nova 40mg. clomid 100mg .25 letro)(wk15 to 18 nova 20 mg. clomid 50mg letro .25) then if bloat or gyno shows up .25 on the letro.

[BOOST]

I would drop the clomid and nova and run HCG for pct.

[Njord]

I would drop the clomid and nova and run HCG for pct.

This is a new one. Why would you run just hcg for pct?

[Titleist]

I would drop the clomid and nova and run HCG for pct.

HCG only for PCT eh? And why exactly would you do that?

[pigrond]

I would drop the clomid and nova and run HCG for pct.

hcg will help a bit but does not do the job all by itself nolva and clomid are also needed and will give better results/faster recovery when used with hcg

[scaramouche]

good choice for a first cycle,low risk of gyno at that dose but if uve got the dex then why not run it

[dingo2]

Thanks to all you guys for your responses. I really appreciate your input/advice. I will keep the board updated on my progress with this cycle.
Thanks again guys...

[Lexed]

bump up the test cyp to 500mg

[SnaX]

I ran Test Cyp as my first cycle. 400mg/week just as you.
Injected every 3 days.(200mg, twice a week)

I'm very satisfied with the gains

Don't feel discouraged if you're not feeling anything right away. It takes like 4 to 6 weeks for it to start taking effect

Peace!

[Myostatinus]

I was thinking of running something very similar (29yo 6'2" 205, couple cycles done already) but with a frontload and dbol at the beginning

wks 1-4 dbol 35mg ED
wk 1 test cyp 900mg
wks 2-10 test cyp 450 mg

wks 1-10 arimidex 0.25mg ED

wks 13-17 pct
nolva 20mg ED
arimidex 0.25mg ED