First cycle options.

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

Which one would u pick.

1-12: Sust250@ 500mg/week
1-5:anapolan50@ 50mg/day
7-12: 30mg winni/day
1-12: .5mg adex or 2.5mg letro/day

13-16, 20nolva, 50 clomid
17: 20 nolva

or use 40mg dbol a day instead of the anadrol?

this is a few months away.

diet:

protein: 450g/day
carbs: 450g/day
fats: 120g/day. 40mono, 40poly, 40sat

i heard anadrol gain mass quick but you will lose most of it when supplementation is stopped.

another issue is the liver complications that can come from being on the methylated compounds like winni or dbol. since i will be using one or the other for most of the cycle i need to find good liver supps. I kno poeple who stack anadrol and winni, or dbol and winni for 6-8 weeks at a time with test and deca, and they are fine so im not to worried.

I've been planning this and waiting impatiently since i was 16.

Thanks for your time.

[longhorn814]

first cycle, I would just do test only. Save the other compounds for another cycle. You need to see how you react to test alone before incorporating other compounds. You will grow just fine on test alone and with proper PCT and good diet you can keep most of your gains

[Lexed]

dam going all out for first cycle you dont need that. Use 500 mg of ur sus for 12 weeks. Save the other stuff for next cycle

[big_dubya33]

my first cycle was test cyp 500 per week (250 every 3.5 days) x 12 weeks. great results. no need to get that complicated early on - save the other compounds for later.

[deeznutts]

^^^^Agreed

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

So`then just 500mg of sustanon 250/week? 250mg on monday and thursday. 12weeks sounds like a nice length. What is the aromatization chance with just sust? im guessin it wont be too high. I may take an ai buti am not sure. maybe just keep lotsm of nolva on hand. pct will be 4 weeks 50clomid and 20mg nolva, plus an extra week of nolva for good measure.

whats the average amount of gains?

only reason i wanted the dbol or anadrol is because of the raaid onset of effects. Then i thought about the sust250, and it has short esters which should kick in after a couple weeks i believe.

thanks and i will keep this updated as soon as i start, plus i will take weekly pics.

[Njord]

If you want to take full advantage of the short esters in Sust, I would recommend shooting EOD. It would also keep your serum blood levels more stable, and hence less chance of side effects.
I would just keep an AI on hand and only use it during cycle if you think you need it. As for the aromatization with Sust, it is going to be just like any other test (it will aromatisize), the question is how it will affect your body or how well you can control the effects with ancilliaries.
What are your stats btw (age, weight, height etc)?

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

20 yo, 6'5 261lbs 12%bf