Back Pumps

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

So Im running Superdrol right now.

What exactly are back pumps, and their signs/symptoms?

For example, last night, I took my pill, and went to play basketball. In the middle of a game, my lower back started hurting, and it hurts to bend down and such. Is this normal?

[spywizard]

VAR does it to me... pumps alot of blood into the muscle that is being used.. this is a good thing when doing weight training..

a bad thing for sports.. try advil and asprin....

[Getinbgr]

On my 4th week of Test E 500mg per week and 2nd weeks of D-bol 40mg ED. Squats and Deads been producing painful pumps in lower back. They go right away after I cool down.

[Njord]

I got back pumps real bad on my last cycle of D-bol and Test E. The worst pain came when I walked a lot. Had to stop and rest after walking only 10 min. It also affected my workouts that involved lower back (squats and deads).Back pumps really, really sucked.
I'm on week three of TPP and NPP and have not seen any sign of backpumps. Must have been the b-bol that did it the last time. No more d-bol for me.

[ecto9]

Yeah, d-bols gave me serious back pumps at 25mg - day. I always got them about 5hrs after morning dose. I'm wondering if splitting up dose would help. Anybody...?

[magic32]

There are times when mankind as a whole (Geocentrism - the earth is the center of the universe; Flat Earth Theory; etc.), as well specific groups bb'ers in this case, become singularly minded in their thinking. Such a condition is generally referred to as 'tunnel vision' and defined by Webster as:

Main Entry: tunnel vision
Function: noun
2 : extreme narrowness of viewpoint : NARROWMINDEDNESS; also : single-minded concentration on one objective.
- http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tunnel%20vision

The reason I prefaced my post is this manner is because I realize that what I'm about to say flies in the face of convention. So I ask that you put tunnel vision aside, and be open-minded.

Let us consider for a moment the possibility that the often debilitating (and this is key), lower back pain experienced by aas users is not a pump at all.
The "Pump" loosely defined is the increase of blood flow to working muscles that causes one to experience a fullness/tightness that can eventually become debilitating.



What EXACTLY do we know of this alleged lower back pump condition:

• aas use makes one far more susceptible
• the pain emanates from the lumbar region (base of the spine) which acts as a hinge between the upper and lower body, and is a central stress diffusing point
• it is indeed REAL PAIN and not the fullness reminiscent of the euphoric tightness experienced during a 'pump'. To paraphrase Arnold "...you get this tight feeling in your muscles, like your skin are going to explode, and it feels fantastic."
• lying down and elevating ones legs provides relief (an act typically used to increase blood flow to an area)
• it occurs more frequently when weight gain is considerable, thus making Dbol notorious
• although incited by exercise that exerts pressure on the area (rows, standing calf raises, squats, leg curls, the high impact of landing in jumping sports, etc.), it can be revisited by something as simple the act of walking or standing.

None of these symptoms are indicative of the "pump" as we know it.
Instead, they are far more characteristic of what we would call VERY MINOR lower back strain: jabbingly persistent pain; more prevalent among the obese, or when upper body weight has been rapidly increased thus stressing the lumbar by limiting blood flow; pressure is relieved by elevation, a blood flow enhancer; flare-ups are not predicated upon lifting and can also appear when playing, walking, or even standing; and when stressors are lessened either in the form of weight loss, or reduced weight-bearing activities the pain naturally subsides.

"Back Pump" or "Back Strain", hey a rose by any other name right?
My objective was simply to shed some light on the actual cause of this condition, as well as to provide some short and long-term remedies based on modified thinking. Thanks for taking the time to read this piece.

M.

[Atomini]

Doesn't lower back pain equal something wrong with the kidneys???

[ecto9]

All I know is 800mg Ibuprophen kills "back pumps" for me, so I doubt it's kidney related. I get them when the d-bol starts kickin in, not from working out...

[magic32]

Yeah, but I'm not sure if mere toxicity can cause kidney/lower back pain, even with the harsher gear.

The fact that Ibuprofen stops the pain has absolutely nothing to do with its origin. This is a popular misconception that somehow the pill works on the area, rather than the pain receptors.

M.

[Atomini]

I am a creatine nonresponder (meaning, I don't respond to creatine - my body just passes it all through my system when I take it) and I get lower back pumps and kidney pains when I take it... and of course, it's due to the fact that the creatine is being filtered through the kidneys to be passed out through my urine, and the kidneys are working so damn hard. It could result in damage.

So I wouldn't doubt that these 'lower back pumps' and pains with steroids are the same thing...

[pigrond]

back pumps are the devil ,it will keep you from walking upright you will limp you may cry.but most assuredly you will feel pain and you will know it when it happens

[pigrond]

if you stretch regularly you will have less occurance of back pump back pump is nothing more than a tight pumped up muscles in your back just like when your arms get pumped and you cant move them same thing only your back is more painful unless you stretch yes ibuprofin helps it reduces swelling there by relieving tension on your muscles in your lower back.it has nothing to do with kidneys if you are having kidney pain see a doctor if your taking dbol or anadrol your gonna get back pumps,your gonna get all kinds of pumps

[pigrond]

There are times when mankind as a whole (Geocentrism - the earth is the center of the universe; Flat Earth Theory; etc.), as well specific groups bb'ers in this case, become singularly minded in their thinking. Such a condition is generally referred to as 'tunnel vision' and defined by Webster as:



The reason I prefaced my post is this manner is because I realize that what I'm about to say flies in the face of convention. So I ask that you put tunnel vision aside, and be open-minded.

Let us consider for a moment the possibility that the often debilitating (and this is key), lower back pain experienced by aas users is not a pump at all.
The "Pump" loosely defined is the increase of blood flow to working muscles that causes one to experience a fullness/tightness that can eventually becomes debilitating.



What EXACTLY do we know of this alleged lower back pump condition:

• aas use makes one far more susceptible
• the pain emanates from the lumbar region (base of the spine) which acts as a hinge between the upper and lower body, and is a central stress diffusing point
• it is indeed REAL PAIN and not the fullness reminiscent of the euphoric tightness experienced during a 'pump'. To paraphrase Arnold "...you get this tight feeling in your muscles, like your skin are going to explode, and it feels fantastic."
• lying down and elevating ones legs provides relief (an act typically used to increase blood flow to an area)
• it occurs more frequently when weight gain is considerable, thus making Dbol notorious
• although incited by exercise that exerts pressure on the area (rows, standing calf raises, squats, leg curls, the high impact of landing in jumping sports, etc.), it can be revisited by something as simple the act of walking or standing.

None of these symptoms are indicative of the "pump" as we know it.
Instead, they are far more characteristic of what we would call VERY MINOR lower back strain: jabbingly persistent pain; more prevalent among the obese, or when upper body weight has been rapidly increased thus stressing the lumbar by limiting blood flow; pressure is relieved by elevation, a blood flow enhancer; flare-ups are not predicated upon lifting and can also appear when playing, walking, or even standing; and when stressors are lessened either in the form of weight loss, or reduced weight-bearing activities the pain naturally subsides.

"Back Pump" or "Back Strain", hey a rose by any other name right?
My objective was simply to shed some light on the actual cause of this condition, as well as to provide some short and long-term remedies based on modified thinking. Thanks for taking the time to read this piece.

M.

didnt read this before i posted well said^^