What should you be looking for as far as signs and symptoms that tren a is negatively affecting your liver?
What should you be looking for as far as signs and symptoms that tren a is negatively affecting your liver?
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the liver is hard to diagnose, so imo bloodwork should tell you this.. But if your skin and eyes are getting yellow, you are in REAL trouble!
I would worry more about 17aa compounds than with tren damaging your liver.
Just go get a blood test done. but like said above if your eyes are turning yellow you might have an issue......
another vicitim of parrotry..
tren will kill ur kidneys before ur liver.
the liver is a beast of a organ that can regernate pretty well.
i'm already taking cranberry extract and milk thistle. what else is good to take to protect to kidney's while on tren?Originally Posted by taiboxa
lol tren isnt going to jack diggy to ur liver.. even at a gram a day there big guy.
jaundice is a warning sign of your liver being stressed. but like the others said be more worried about the liver toxic compounds like winny, that gives me jaundice near the end of my cycle.
var eats ur liver more than tren .. think bout them apples
Tren has beaten up my Kidneys, I'm on TrenE now but I think this is going to be my last run with it. My GFR results are going down and that's not good. I'm 38 and my Creatinine level is 1.6, that gives me a GFR of 52 and that was 5 months off cycle.
I'll tell you one thing HGH has put more stress on my Liver then any other gear accept Drol.
My AST and ALT have almost doubled since I started GH, I got another blood test done 5 months after being off cycle but started GH 1 month before cycle ended and after 5 months of no gear and only GH my Liver Values doubled.
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Last edited by Microbrew; 08-03-2007 at 03:19 AM.
GH stresses your liver? Thats a new one. You sure its not from something else your doing?? Ive been taking GH for several years now with a few month breaks every once in a while and my liver are perfect. The only time they get elevated is if I take orals, which I dont anymore. I get bloodwork done regularly tooOriginally Posted by Microbrew
There are none.Originally Posted by IAMCDN
It won't!
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Cranberry is a potent antioxidant, it's not used to protect the kidneys, but rather to fight infections within them. MT is an alleged liver cleanser, won't impact the kidneys.Originally Posted by IAMCDN
Drink plenty of water and monitor urine color.
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My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
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Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
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I would add it takes a fair amount of tren to harm the kidneys. 50-75mg/day would be safe I think. Or at least I hope. I need reassurance.Originally Posted by taiboxa
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so why would you keep taking it if you know its reckin your kidneys? Kidneys cant regenerate.Originally Posted by Microbrew
Curious, what signs of kidneys stress do u first notice? or did u just discover through BW?
My bro got done with Max Lmg, and has some edema on his shins. I worry for his kindeys so we got him a bloodtest hes getting tomw.
Max lmg is not a c-17.So even though his doese was 100mg-125 a day, im still uncertain how it may have done this, since anadrol and d-bol have been takin in near same mg dose, but are c-17s. C-17s stress the liver, but this stress can in turn stress the kidneys.
gotta watch the kidneys guys..please
dialysis is not sexy.
Just be sure urine is'nt turning a brown color. I found a good site for blood tests I'd like to share with you all. they have Labs all over with a locator for your area...
http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#liv
Originally Posted by longhorn814
I had bw done in January and stopped Tren and EQ in December but continued to run Sus and started up GH, the bw I had done in Jan showed my liver to be fine. Stop Sus in March and stayed on GH and had bw done again in July and my liver values were close to doubled, border line normal but still almost double from my last bw in Jan.
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maybe there is something else going on in your body causing the elevated liver values. If you think its the GH, I would stop it or go see a doc and have a liver ultrasoundOriginally Posted by Microbrew
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thanks alot bro
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You used this site yourself?
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I've used it for BW and received the results in a timely manner. IMHO a good company, I've used it a few times.
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They won't do Jersey or NY, I might have to go to Philly to get the bw done. I'll call them back another day and see if I can do it that way.Originally Posted by Blitz777
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