Ricky Hitton stops castillo in the 4 round with a amazing body shot, The man is going to be a legend.
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Ricky Hitton stops castillo in the 4 round with a amazing body shot, The man is going to be a legend.
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I'm still not convinced about hatton. He's too up and down. Plus he fought a Castillo who is over the hill and damaged by all the wars he's been in. I'll reserve judgement of Hatton until he faces Cotto, Mosely, or Mayweather. If he beats one of them I'll consider him a legend.
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if they went down to his weight i would say hatton would win. but i think hatton would struggle at that weight.
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None of those guys could make 140. Mayweather might, but the other's cant. Hatton walks around at 175, been known to get up to around 190lbs. I think he can make 154 or even 147. He'll never be known as a legend unless he fights and wins against one of those guys. Remember all those guys have won in that division only to go on to win up to 154 as well. Ricky needs to fight those guys if he wishes to be considered a legend.
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i hope he fights one of those especially cotto, it would be a geat fight
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Yeah that would be a war!! I think that fight would sell out Madison Square Garden and have PPV numbers similar to De La Hoya/Mayweather. But you can guarantee that it would be a non-stop action fight that would not go the distance. Someone will taste the canvas in that fight for sure.
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Doubt it will come close to hoya/mayweather in ppv sales, but it will do well.. maybe in 08' we could expect that fight to happen.. cant waitOriginally Posted by BgMc31
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it was a very good body punch, but i think Hatton needs to step up the ball game and challenge someone a bit younger and with less wars under there belt...
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I'm thinking it could reach that level because the level of popularity Hatton has with the English people and the level of popularity Cotto has with latinos, especially his own Puerto Rican people. But you are right, it may not reach that level but it will be close.
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I think that statement about Mayweather was a challenge.
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Mayweather has no chance ..................... alot of people would have ate there words saturday night / sunday morning..
Ricky is fernominal has as much firepower to fight super middle weights and knock them out.
If you notice has used the body punches all through out his career until stepping in to world class opposition ......... for him to take out castillo in the 4th with that defestating punch to the side of the body.
Niether mayweather or any other boxers are going to want step in to the ring with what im going to call in 8 - 9 years time 1 of the best boxers of all time.
Ricky made the whole of GB proud going to ceasers palace and beat the best man in his wieght.
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Ricky hatton could sell out Man arena .. wembley .. millenium stadium 5 times over ....... you wouldnt believe the backinng he has here........also after beating castillo he should makle some major fans there.
But i can see where your coming from ............ population and enthusiasts in america are huge.
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Castillo was the best boxing had to offer hatton. Now Hatton is a teacher let the pupils come learn from him.
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good posts
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I love Hattons personality and I think its good for boxing. Hes a force and will continue to be a force in 140 for a long time. However, I think Cotto, Mayweather and Mosley would beat Hatton. Hattons style I find a little boring with all the hugging, clinching he does but he has absolutely perfected this style and as a result is very tough to beat.
Apparently a Hatton/Mayweather fight is getting close and they could fight at Wembley Stadium in England in front of 60,000 fans. That would be one of the most hyped up fights in boxing history. It would be HUGE!
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That's laughable in it's absurdity!!! You are reading way too much into a victory against a shot fighter. If you watched the fight on HBO, renowned trainer Manny Stewart noticed that Castillo was shot in the first 10 seconds of the fight. Let's examine potential fights for Hatton and the resulting outcome:
Mosely: Way too much speed and power for Hatton to handle. Hatton won't be able to hold Mosely the way he attempts to hold everyone else.
Cotto: Way to strong for Hatton. As evidenced by his last two fights before a shot Castillo. Hatton was hurt a couple times be people with half the power of Cotto.
Mayweather: Not even in the same range. Mayweather's speed would dominate Hatton. Hatton wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather and Mayweather would simply pick him apart. Hatton doesn't have nearly the power De La Hoya and no where near his speed. So Mayweather has much less to worry about. That fight would be similar to Mayweather/Gotti and we all know what happened in that fight.
As far as popularity is concerned. Hatton is HUGE in the UK. But Cotto and other's are way more popular here in the states. Hatton may sell tickets to Man but that won't translate into PPV buys.
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Correct.. What De La Hoya (Golden Boy Productions) did with promoting his last fight was simply flawless.. Hattons next fight will without a doubt be a hyped fight for boxing, but if there is not a great marketing team behind that fight it will not sell what it should..
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As always BgMc31, you are so hard to please when it comes to UK fighters. You sure love to hate.
You gave credit 'where it's due' when Kimbo beat a shot Mercer (actually I was quite impressed by that), but none of those kind words for Ricky? C'mon man, the criteria you set for British fighters is unbelievably high.
According to you Joe Calzage is a bum because he hasn't beaten the 3 A++ american fighters you've decided upon, all 3 outside his weightclass (Taylor, Hopkins, Jones). Now you're doing the same with Hatton. Hatton has hammered everyone that has come his way, with a crowd pleasing all-action rough-house style. He destroyed the undisputed king of the division in Kostya Tzyu, but still you won't give him credit until he does the same to the fighter of your choice (though I'll bet that before the Tzyu fight you'd have been saying "Hatton ain't shit, I'll give the bum some credit if he beats someone like Tzyu"). Come on man, it was a good win over a quality opponant. Mayweather had 24 rounds and couldn't put him away. Credit where it's due.
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Huge difference between Kimbo and his first fight and Hatton and his 40+. I think Hatton is a good fighter, just like I think Calzagne is a good fighter, but neither are great fighters. And putting Hatton in the same category as Mayweather is laughable and you know it. It's ok to be a fan of someone of your own country but he have to also be a realist. Hatton is not on Mayweather's level. Mayweather is at the top, period.
I actually had Hatton beating Tyzu. And Calzagne is the one who called out Jones, Hopkins, Tarver, and Taylor, not me. Just like Hatton has done with Mayweather and Cotto. Hatton only show's his all out action when he fights fighter he knows he can beat. Otherwise he hits and holds, hits and holds. If you call that all out action, then I have some John Ruiz videos to sell you!
I'm actually a fan of the UK, having a Scot for a great grandfather and all. So don't try to make this a "I hate the UK" thing. I'm a fan of boxing and can admit who is a great fighter and who isn't no matter where they are from. Maybe you should try it sometime.
Last edited by BgMc31; 06-26-2007 at 11:02 PM.
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I don't think Hatton is perfect and I certainly wouldn't compare his boxing skills with those of Mayweather. Mayweather is vastly the superior boxer. However we can compare their respective performances against a common opponent. I was much more impressed with Ricky's 4th round K.O. of Castillio than I was with Mayweather's first 12 round encounter (wasn't that one pretty close?) or his second crack where he again failed to stop Castillo. I'm just saying credit where it's due. Mayweather is the better boxer, but could it just be that Hatton is the more destructive puncher?
And I don't feel that your claim to being 1/8 scottish enhances your impartial status when it comes to your appraisals of British fighters. Your previous posts are a better guide. Anyway the scots hate us english, being an 8th scottish probably just enhances the likelihood of you being an irrational basher of englishmen!
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Just pointing out that you said I was hard on UK fighters, now you are changing it to English fighters. The fact remains I don't hate on any particular country when it comes to any sport.
We can make a generalization based on a common opponent, but that doesn't always preclude the outcome. Styles make fights and also when a fighter fights another fighter makes a difference as well. The Castillo that Hatton 'stopped' wasn't the Castillo that Mayweather faced. That was blatantly obvious and pointed out by both Manny Stewart and Max Kellerman.
I'll give credit to Hatton, he dismantled a game Castillo. But the hype around Hatton isn't justified. I think he is a quality fighter that, at times, is very exciting to watch. But at times as well, he is extremely boring with his hit and hold technique. I would much rather watch Mayweather jab and run, then to watch Hatton hit and hold.
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No need to point anything out, I never changed that statement. You're right, I said you're hard on UK fighters, I also rephrased that as you're hard on British fighters. I haven't changed that statement to 'english fighters', (that would be daft, we all know you're harsh with welsh ones too).
You asserted your impartiallity by saying that you're an 8th Scotish, since in this discussion we are talking about an englishman in Hatton I said that that would probably make you more more likely to be an irrational basher of englishmen.
I didn't move the goalposts of our little digression.
Maybe Hatton isn't worth the 'hype' I have no idea what hype you're getting. I just know he's the best 140lb fighter to come out of England, and so for he's been better than everyone he's met. I think that's reason to rate the guy highly. But like i've said before, you've seen the fights, if they don't impress you nothing that I say will enhance your appraisal of a 43-0 (31ko's) record.
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Well guys...guess what. This fight might be taking place this fall! Please let it be true!
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2918039
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just read that test, hopefully it does go ahead it would be massive
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looks like this fight is going to happen. They are only dollars apart and location seems to be the only issue. Mayweather wants it in Las Vegas, Hatton wants it in Britain. Hattons promoter offered Floyd 5 million pounds which is a little more than 10 million dollars American to fight in Britain. Very good initial offer.
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yeh there talking about nov 10 as being the fight date, vegas here i come
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Damn, a fight in Britain would be pretty scary for Mayweather.. Hooligans would erupt after a Mayweather win..
The fight would most likely be fought in Vegas though,, More money in it..
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Even though Hatton would love it to be in Britain and the atmosphere would be insane, I want it to be in Vegas. Its closer to home and the flight is a hell of alot cheaper. lol. Ive always wanted to see a fight in Vegas and this one would be it.Damn, a fight in Britain would be pretty scary for Mayweather.. Hooligans would erupt after a Mayweather win
The fight would most likely be fought in Vegas though,, More money in it..
Even though I dont think the fight will be two exciting because of their respective styles, they are two undefeated fighters with something to prove and the atmosphere will be incredible.
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mayweather should of lost 2 De la hoya, hatton wins by a body shot again.
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Another person who didn't see the DLH/Mayweather fight...and doesn't know much about boxing...Everyone knows that DLH has one of the best left hooks to the body in the sport plus he's a much bigger/stronger fighter than Hatton. So if DLH couldn't hurt Floyd (at all), I doubt Hatton can.
10million won't be enough to get Floyd to fight in England. He made 15 against DLH. In order for Floyd to fight in England, they would have to get Floyd at least 20million. Hatton may be able to get 50K in a stadium, but very few will get the pay per view. If the fight is in Vegas not only can they charge ridiculous amounts for ringside seats, but the pay per view numbers would be much greater because of the UK fans. Much smarter business if the fight is held here in Vegas.
I think it has a potential to be a very boring fight. Floyd's peak-a-boo style and Hatton's hit and hold technique doesn't bode well for an exciting fight.
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i did watch the fight, mayweather didnt impress me, DLH looked stronger and had alot more aggression, he looked like he wanted it more than mayweather. Hatton wont mind going over there, but mayweather scared to come over here..
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Being more agressive and looking like he wanted more doesn't win fights when you don't land many punches. The fact remains, Mayweather fought a smarter fight by picking DLH apart, landing many more punches and many more effective punches while throwing much less. That's the blueprint of how a smaller boxer beats a bigger more powerful puncher. DLH was simply outclassed.i did watch the fight, mayweather didnt impress me, DLH looked stronger and had alot more aggression, he looked like he wanted it more than mayweather. Hatton wont mind going over there, but mayweather scared to come over here..
I've noticed that many people would love to see Mayweather lose because of his mouth, but let's be realistic. Hatton is not a better boxer or puncher than DLH. He doesn't have nearly the hand speed as DLH either. He won't win. I think the only ones who can beat Mayweather are Cotto and Mosely, but those fights won't happen because there isn't enough money in either one of those. Mayweather isn't scared to go to England, that's absurd, that's a smart business move. First of all Mayweather knows that there is more money available to him here in the states (PPV % and gate revenue), why should he fight for 10mil in the UK instead of 20mil in his hometown (vegas)? Secondly Mayweather also knows that he isn't a "knock out puncher" so fighting his style in a lesser opponents backyard would probably end up in a decision for the hometown guy. You call the man scared, I call the man smart. Look this isn't about who the toughest guy is, it's about who the better boxer is and at the end of the day, it's a business. Mayweather is 'THE MAN' he shouldn't have to go where the challenger is, the challenger needs to come to him. If you want to knock the king off the mountain, you need to go to his mountain!
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lol do you even follow boxing making a statement like that? should have lost to de la hoya? complete lopsided fight we dont even have to revisit this. hatton would not stand a snowballs chance against floyd. for the record i am a hatton fan and cant stand floyd but it is what it is.
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ok maybe Mayweather deserved to win. but i watched the build up to that fight and mayweather's big mouth made deslike him and because of that i really wanted DLH to kill him. but sorry guys i still think hatton will up his game again against mayweather and will win.
Last edited by johnq; 06-29-2007 at 03:00 PM.
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i wanted the same thing to happen but knew it wouldnt. floyd will fight hatton the same boring ass way but it is not fans one must impress, it is the judges. if you win the super bowl 3-0 you still are world champs even though no one wants to see that. i like hatton alot. i think he brings alot to the table and alot to the sport but he really wont be able to do much damage against floyd.
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has this fight been confirmed ???
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No, ESPN has confirmed that talks are ongoing. Money and venue are holding it up. I doubt we will hear anything until mid-July at the earliest.
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