New Cycle Help

[newbielifter]

Ok, I am new to the anabolic world and am tired of eating decent and working out and not seeing the progress I want so I am here for help. I am 5'11" 260lbs, 34yrs. and have a BMI of roughly 38% maybe lower. People tell me I am not fat I am just stocky so I could be off. What I am looking to find out is I have recently picked up 140 5mg Winni, 140 5mg Diana and 4000mg of T. Prop.

Now as stated in my title I have never done a cycle and I am a very impatient person so I am willing to work hard to get what I want accomplished. Now I'm not saying I want to be another Coleman or Cutler, what I am saying is I wanna be able to take my shirt off at the beach, I want to feel good about myself.

The problem I am having is I have been given advice on when and how much to take of what I have by some serious lifters, but again key word is SERIOUS and I trust what they say, but just want more input. What they have recommended is as follows:

20-30mg Diana ED
100mg T. Prop every 48 hours and start 5-7 days after Diana
20-30mg Winni ED starting 10 days after finish with Diana and run until completed

Now again, I do not know anything about this and I am looking for help on how to achieve the best results in the fastest way possible without destroying my body. I do realize I need to put in hard work and am willing to do so. Thanks for the help and I appreciate any help offered.

[SMAN12b]

First WELCOME TO AR

second, please slow down.....I really dont' think you are quite ready for steroids and if your body fat is high, then steroids will just add to your problems

also, first cycles should be limited to ONE compound (a single ester Testosterone) to see how your body reacts to it.

ALSO it doesn't sound like you know anything about what to do after the cycle (PCT) witch is the MOST Important part of ANY cycle!!

The cycle advice you got is way OFF !! not the best way to do it even with those compounds.......

Stick around a read for a few months, and get your diet in line and drop some bodyfat FIRST

This isn't the easiest thing to do ,but if you want to do it right you need to make a commitment

[kfrost06]

Perfect advice.

[newbielifter]

First WELCOME TO AR

second, please slow down.....I really dont' think you are quite ready for steroids and if your body fat is high, then steroids will just add to your problems

also, first cycles should be limited to ONE compound (a single ester Testosterone) to see how your body reacts to it.

ALSO it doesn't sound like you know anything about what to do after the cycle (PCT) witch is the MOST Important part of ANY cycle!!

The cycle advice you got is way OFF !! not the best way to do it even with those compounds.......

Stick around a read for a few months, and get your diet in line and drop some bodyfat FIRST

This isn't the easiest thing to do ,but if you want to do it right you need to make a commitment

Yeah I know I seem impatient and that is because I am.. And you're right I do not have any idea about the PCT and that is why I am hoping someone will guide me in the right direction. I will take your advice into consideration and I do appreciate the info. And just out of curiosity why is the cycle advice inaccurate? I have also searched for other products as my source is over seas for a while, but cannot find anyone that is legit.

[SMAN12b]

Yeah I know I seem impatient and that is because I am.. And you're right I do not have any idea about the PCT and that is why I am hoping someone will guide me in the right direction. I will take your advice into consideration and I do appreciate the info. And just out of curiosity why is the cycle advice inaccurate? I have also searched for other products as my source is over seas for a while, but cannot find anyone that is legit.

Well for one , there is a PCT forum here, just get on it and read everything about it and especially HCG, CLOMID, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Letro, Proviron

the cycle you posted shows NO timing at all

what are the lengths of use for each compound?? Type it out like this

Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30 mgs/ED
Weeks 1-8 Test Prop @ 100 mgs/ ED or EOD
weeks 2-8 WInny @ 50mgs/ED

PCT would start day after last winny and run for a minimum of 30 days

There is NO need to wait until after the dbol to start the test as you want to build it up in your blood levels.

ALSO if your winny is ORAL, then you are using TWO very harsh oral for your first cycle. NOT A GOOD IDEA

I would go with a smart simple TEST ENANTHATE cycle of 500mgs/Week for 10-12 weeks followed by the proper PCT and use of anchillaries during !!!

[newbielifter]

sman12b- Thanks for all the help, I do appreciate it and will take your advice. I was wondering the same thing as I read that both the DBol and winny are very harsh on the liver. Ok, now last thing before I go read and read and read, what is the difference between me using the PROPINATE I have as opposed to getting the ENANTHATE?