Dbol kickstart with Test/Tren?

[JC2007]

For my winter bulker:

Weeks 1-10

Test Enanthate: 750 mg/week
Tren Enanthate: 400 mg/week
Week 8 start IGF and run through PCT.
Letrozole: 0.25 mg/ED
Standard PCT.

Just wondering if using dbol was alright for the first four weeks for a kickstart?

[Johny-too-small]

Hell ya! 30-40 mg/ed would be a nice kickstart. Have you used tren before? You could also do prop @ 75mg/ed as a kickstart too...

[JC2007]

Hell ya! 30-40 mg/ed would be a nice kickstart. Have you used tren before? You could also do prop @ 75mg/ed as a kickstart too...

I've used tren acetate but not enanthate. Yes I forgot about prop for a jumpstart, hell of an idea! I've been considering running MGF with the IGF but I'm not sold on it... (yet).

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

im not a big oral fan but i like this. should work out good.

[JC2007]

im not a big oral fan but i like this. should work out good.

I like dbol although I've only used it a couple times. If I go with the prop I reckon I'd run it at 100mg ED for five weeks although I'm not too sure I wanna take fifty shots just to jumpstart haha.

[taiboxa]

just outta curiosity why is ur test so high?
i really dont think it will do a lick of difference increasing ur test from say 300 to 750 except increase aromitization since tren will be ur heavy hitter..

[JC2007]

just outta curiosity why is ur test so high?
i really dont think it will do a lick of difference increasing ur test from say 300 to 750 except increase aromitization since tren will be ur heavy hitter..

Not worried about aromatization with the let. Test was 750 last cycle, same this one. I wanna keep the test higher than the tren. Do you think I could get away with 500 for the test?

[taiboxa]

Not worried about aromatization with the let. Test was 750 last cycle, same this one. I wanna keep the test higher than the tren. Do you think I could get away with 500 for the test?

why?
i know u could get away w/ 125mg/wk of testE.. its not like the tren is going to cause any type of suppression of/to the exogenous synthetic test. also you will have less possibility of attaining progest/estrogen based sides since estrogen will be minimal and it is easier to manipulate estrogen via test dose than by utilizng AI's.

also imo this allows one to run tren HIGHER attaining better gains w/o acquiring as bad as night sweats or insomnia.. this isnt just for me either, i know several people who have experienced the same DECREASE in sides w/ tren from a lower test dosage.

[JC2007]

why?
i know u could get away w/ 125mg/wk of testE.. its not like the tren is going to cause any type of suppression of/to the exogenous synthetic test. also you will have less possibility of attaining progest/estrogen based sides since estrogen will be minimal and it is easier to manipulate estrogen via test dose than by utilizng AI's.

also imo this allows one to run tren HIGHER attaining better gains w/o acquiring as bad as night sweats or insomnia.. this isnt just for me either, i know several people who have experienced the same DECREASE in sides w/ tren from a lower test dosage.

Interesting but makes sense considering how androgenic tren is. Maybe I will run 500 test then... Thx.