Var Only Cycle

[K.Biz]

Starting a Var only cycle on monday. Ill be running Liv-52, Milk thistle & 1500mg of FF niacin a day. I will also be taking coq10.

It will be 7 weeks @ 50mgs a day.

Heres my last couple pictures after finishing my last SD cycle, im up 4 pounds since this picture, but heres a idea.

Im 5'8 169 pounds

Max lifts.
Bench: 305
Military Press: 245
Squats: 6 plates a side.
Deads: 4 Plates A side

Ill be keeping a weekly log, none of this everyday update stuff, i have done a bunch of those so i dont have the time i used to. anyway starts monday, so monday will be my first update

[5ifthCitizen]

ill be watching! what are your goals for this?

[number twelve]

yeaa kev lookin good bro you know ill be following this

[testisbest]

Damn bro, I wish you'd throw in 50mg of prop every day for this cycle. I know you don't need it but you'd be much more impressed. Also, if you have more var, I'd up the dose as close to 100mg a day as you can.

[K.Biz]

Damn bro, I wish you'd throw in 50mg of prop every day for this cycle. I know you don't need it but you'd be much more impressed. Also, if you have more var, I'd up the dose as close to 100mg a day as you can.

Yea i wish i had some test also BUT, my acne gets so shitty on cycle, i cant even imagine what it would look like on test. and im not personally ready to stick myself, im not scared... just not in the right situation., also the risk factor im still living with my rents till im off to school, and i dont need them comming across needles, that might not go over to well. and im not putting them at risk of getting sauce shipped to the house or keeping it here. pills are a lil easy to conceal.

So my first real cycle of test will be in late 08. im going to focus on school so i dont want the burden of a cycle, so prob before summer near the very end of the school year.

K.biz

[testisbest]

Well, at least you're responsible. You'll have good results with the cycle you've laid out. I'd still do two things different to get the most out of this cycle.
1. up the var dose
2. add 40 to 50mg of tbol a day
Good luck, I'll be keeping up with this thread.

PS- you don't need to worry about the toxicity of stacking var with tbol, they are the 2 least toxic orals on the market (besides oral primo). Have fun.

[number twelve]

what are tbol?

[ecto9]

Turanabol

[needsomehelp]

He looks young.

He'll love var. I did 2 var only cycles...Strength went way up. If steroid virgin 50 mg is plenty imo. he already got the size...for what I'm guessing is 21? 22?

[K.Biz]

He looks young.

He'll love var. I did 2 var only cycles...Strength went way up. If steroid virgin 50 mg is plenty imo. he already got the size...for what I'm guessing is 21? 22?

yup 21, almost 22

[number twelve]

Turanabol

thanks

[K.Biz]

I wanted to get dbol, and do a dbol/var cycle, but i couldnt get any. i no everyone says run test with dbol but thats a bunch of bullshit, all the parrots squaking. but couldnt get dbol so var only

[PEWN]

all i can say is up the dose...50mg is a little low..

[ecto9]

Bro, I ran a dbol only cycle a while back. If you do run it be sure to run an AI with that cause you could get bloated and fat off it from the estrogen sides.

[maxiimus]

looks like you got a great start matey, interested to see how ya progress

goodluck

[K.Biz]

Thanks boys, Ill add an AI if i happen to get Dbol and run it the last 4 weeks or somthing but probably not going to happen, IThis is my cutting cycle and im trying to hit the 6% bf marker. And dbol probobly isnt the best cutting roid either, so its prob better I dont have it.

anyway about its 6:30 in about 30min im going to go grab some oatmeal and some eggs and pop my first pill so hopfully no stomach problems i hear a couple people deal with that. anywya im sure i'll be back to update somtime within the day.

[K.Biz]

well took the second pill around 2ish. didnt feel really anything to special in the gym today, but my mindset is there, just been real tiired latley, i gotta get more sleep, so ill prob go to bed in about an hour so (9pm). I hope this shit kicks in soon I hope its real to...

but my source is pretty damn good, think i should be fine

Anyway thats the update.

[K.Biz]

Took a back picture on my phone last night, quality isnt great, but should give you an idea. the wheels will be up shortly. this back pic was taken with no pump and i didnt get a full lat extention on this either, there definetly more to my back, but heres an idea.

[PROTEINSHAKE]

smart. start off small--one compound to see what it does for you. running more at first then you never know how you are really responding to which compound. 50mg var for a noob is good IMO..if you feel the need to bump it after 3-4weeks-then do so... run policosanol or some cholesterol support as well...var can destroy your lipid panel.
question/observation....you are telling us that you squat 585?? wei***ng 175lbs... c-mon dood... that cant be true

[K.Biz]

smart. start off small--one compound to see what it does for you. running more at first then you never know how you are really responding to which compound. 50mg var for a noob is good IMO..if you feel the need to bump it after 3-4weeks-then do so... run policosanol or some cholesterol support as well...var can destroy your lipid panel.
question/observation....you are telling us that you squat 585?? wei***ng 175lbs... c-mon dood... that cant be true

Actually yes. it is my 1 rep max and yes i only weigh 170ish. It might seem out of control but its true, I have two SD cycles under my belt and they sent my strength through the freakin roof! In 2 cycles my bench pretty much went up 150 pounds, and my squats.... shit over 200 pounds. I rep between 400-455, but i can get up there on good leg days, hoping to hit the 600-650 on this cycle, if what i hear about the stregnth gains on this is true, then i shoudl be able to get there.

I am running Niacin @ 1500mg a day. I have never herd of policosanol., mabye i will run that as well, can i grab that at say a walmart or CVS?

[PROTEINSHAKE]

if what u say is true... VERY IMPRESSIVE man... nice work.. as for the policosanol OR cholesterol support, yea--any vitamin store or walmart should carry it...

[K.Biz]

if what u say is true... VERY IMPRESSIVE man... nice work.. as for the policosanol OR cholesterol support, yea--any vitamin store or walmart should carry it...

Thanks for the infobro.

Check out My SD Log
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=290630 - My Most Recent
This tracks all my progress. It was pretty insane week to week

You shoudl also check out #12 SD log as well, we ran our cycles at the same time to compare results and he had if not better stregnth gains then me, hes a lil under 200 pounds benching 405 and squating a good amount more then me. This SD stuff is pretty awsome

[number twelve]

k biz is a beast

lol btw thanks for the plug to my thread ; )

[passthetest]

pretty strong for you weight

[testisbest]

pretty strong for you weight

Very strong for his weight and age. I like being around 200 to 210 and being as strong as the 230+ guys in the gym. But I don't care for getting much bigger, just maintain around 11 to 12% and get my lifts way up.

[K.Biz]

My god the shin splints are killin me doing cardio, i hit my 3rd mile today running and my legs pretty much gave out, ended up walking the rest home ( 2 miles) in some severe pain, looks like im going to have to start taking the bike out.

[Dangerdan]

smart. start off small--one compound to see what it does for you. running more at first then you never know how you are really responding to which compound. 50mg var for a noob is good IMO..if you feel the need to bump it after 3-4weeks-then do so... run policosanol or some cholesterol support as well...var can destroy your lipid panel.
question/observation....you are telling us that you squat 585?? wei***ng 175lbs... c-mon dood... that cant be true

If you can really do a full squat at close to 600 at your bodyweight, that is very very impressive. If you add that 200lbs again this cycle, you would be what, top 10 in the world at your weight class? Lets see a video of that squat.

Best of luck with the cycle. I think the dosage is fine for your first run.

[K.Biz]

If you can really do a full squat at close to 600 at your bodyweight, that is very very impressive. If you add that 200lbs again this cycle, you would be what, top 10 in the world at your weight class? Lets see a video of that squat.

Best of luck with the cycle. I think the dosage is fine for your first run.

I have no problem posting me doing the squat, dont no if i can get a video, but im pretty sure i get a cell phone picture. ill see what i can do in the next couple weeks.

I think adding 200 pounds in 1 cycle would be pretty insane, i did it in 2 cycles which i still impressive in my eyes. My gains in my second cycle also slowed down a lot compared to my gains in my first, i think the first couple cycles are the best, but hey we'll see! im only on day 3 so who knows

[Dangerdan]

I have no problem posting me doing the squat, dont no if i can get a video, but im pretty sure i get a cell phone picture. ill see what i can do in the next couple weeks.

I think adding 200 pounds in 1 cycle would be pretty insane, i did it in 2 cycles which i still impressive in my eyes. My gains in my second cycle also slowed down a lot compared to my gains in my first, i think the first couple cycles are the best, but hey we'll see! im only on day 3 so who knows

Yeah, those gains from the SD cycles are pretty impressive. As for the any video; I say go old skool and throw on some jean shorts and work boots with a sleveless flannel shirt.

[number twelve]

Yeah, those gains from the SD cycles are pretty impressive. As for the any video; I say go old skool and throw on some jean shorts and work boots with a sleveless flannel shirt.

he isnt doing gay porn he is squatting! lol jk

[Dangerdan]

he isnt doing gay porn he is squatting! lol jk

Hey, those were high fashion bodybuilding attire ten years ago.

[thetank]

squatting 6 plates? raw?! dude, no ****in way..thats the most i ever squat, but i was 240 lbs, and have crazy natural strength on legs..you post a pic of you squatting that much, i will be beyond impressed....but theres no way i can believe a claim like that without seeing it.
regardless good luck with your cycle keep updating your log im interested in seeing your results.
peace
tank

[dupa95]

squatting 6 plates? raw?! dude, no ****in way..thats the most i ever squat, but i was 240 lbs, and have crazy natural strength on legs..you post a pic of you squatting that much, i will be beyond impressed....but theres no way i can believe a claim like that without seeing it.
regardless good luck with your cycle keep updating your log im interested in seeing your results.
peace
tank

Yea i PMd vet. a power liftin vet He said the only posible two were bench and dead the rest is a steamy pile. with out flaming. Let me say this be real about things. I would never ever inflate my lifts cuz any of you guys at any time could walk into my gym gym and say ok let's see tuff guy. Sorry about the high jack but bro be real.

[K.Biz]

im fine with it, im not here to inflate my lifts either, i said they were max lifts, its not like im repping 585, im doing it 1 time, and barley 1 time. i dont know whats going through some of your heads, but your quick to flame, I will post a picture of 585 for you, just to spite your claims. It doesnt bother me at all.

[K.Biz]

Yea i PMd vet. a power liftin vet He said the only posible two were bench and dead the rest is a steamy pile. with out flaming. Let me say this be real about things. I would never ever inflate my lifts cuz any of you guys at any time could walk into my gym gym and say ok let's see tuff guy. Sorry about the high jack but bro be real.

the rest is a steamy pile? i think a 245 military press is weak as hell to be honest. im only repping 185 for about 6... haha you guys are rediculous. So my max bench of 305 and my dead lifts of 4 plates is ok, buttt my press of 245 is a steamty pile? lol. I guess i could question the squat, but I love how I post my numbers in here, but for 2 months i was posting them in the supp forum, not a word was said, now its all hatin', but w/e it fuels my fire, ill post a pic when i have the chance.

[shark333]

good luck . looking forward to that picture .

[timtim]

im fine with it, im not here to inflate my lifts either, i said they were max lifts, its not like im repping 585, im doing it 1 time, and barley 1 time. i dont know whats going through some of your heads, but your quick to flame, I will post a picture of 585 for you, just to spite your claims. It doesnt bother me at all.

so youre saying you beat PROFESSIONAL powerlifters in the squat:

www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/3360

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006plnat.htm

thats the area where people are calling bullshit. its all about RANGE OF MOTION when you do all these lifts you claim. the dead is ok, not questioning that. the others, where range of motion is essential to complete the true exercise, are the ones im calling out. bench, the bar has to come to your chest, pause with no movement, feet and back flat on the bench throughout, and power the bar up. not stop 5 or 6 inches from the chest and simply reverse the movement. the military press, the bar has to come to the clavicle, not the chin or nose area (i see that all the time, its not a real lift). and the squat numbers youre saying are bs. sorry. no way you are getting to parrell, pausing, and driving up.

pictures of you under a bar are senseless. ive seen 200 pound guys do 750 quarter squats. its not a squat. its a completely different exercise. a video is the only proof and a kid im training now has a friend on the national level for strong man and hes barely getting 650 in the true squat and hes 230ish at 20 years old.

[K.Biz]

I dont have access to post a video so i dont no what u want me to do A picture will have to do, or you'll just have to trust me. But my military only does go to my chin, i have never gone down any further, puts to much strain on my shoulders, and feels like im going to injure them, so I guess im not doing a real rep . The bench comes to my chest and back up, back up powefully? eh not so much, it might take a little bit, a good struggle, but it does go up, thats what iwould quialify as a MAX lift, if it went up 1 rep easy then i would think i woudl be able to get another and that wouldnt be max correct?

As far as my squat im not pulling some kind of tom platz shit, like ass to the grass squats, that shits pure insanity, i can prob do mabye 400 pounds ass to grass. Mabye my defenition off lifts are different then yours, or everyone else it seems.

Ill tell you that there not worthless half reps, according to you the are, or the powerlifting association, but im not a power lifter, so i wouldnt know.

[timtim]

I dont have access to post a video so i dont no what u want me to do A picture will have to do, or you'll just have to trust me. But my military only does go to my chin, i have never gone down any further, puts to much strain on my shoulders, and feels like im going to injure them, so I guess im not doing a real rep . The bench comes to my chest and back up, back up powefully? eh not so much, it might take a little bit, a good struggle, but it does go up, thats what iwould quialify as a MAX lift, if it went up 1 rep easy then i would think i woudl be able to get another and that wouldnt be max correct?

As far as my squat im not pulling some kind of tom platz shit, like ass to the grass squats, that shits pure insanity, i can prob do mabye 400 pounds ass to grass. Mabye my defenition off lifts are different then yours, or everyone else it seems.

Ill tell you that there not worthless half reps, according to you the are, or the powerlifting association, but im not a power lifter, so i wouldnt know.

im not hating on you. i was a speed and strength coach for awhile and still train on the side. to be considered complete lifts, range of motion is everything. its not me saying this. its anyone who knows what they are talking about with lifting. again, not hating.

if the lifts are 1/2 done they arent considered true lifts. thats that. i was once a partial rep guy in the late 90's too. then i started working with true trainers and got laughed out of the gym till i started moving in a full range of motion. my squat went from a nice quarter/partial of 520 for 1 to a full ass to the floor of 315 (200 pound drop right off the top and the 315 to the floor was 100% harder than the quarter rep). just the way it is. you get alot more out of a lift working from start to finish than from the strongest areas only, this is the idea with chains and bands, strengthen the weakest parts of the lifts to increase the overall.

not hating. good luck.

[number twelve]

kev i know you have no reason to lie, i know you do what you say. im looking forward to the gains you are gonna make keep up the good work dude