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    Tweeking my 1st cycle to include winny

    I've got most of my first cycle ironed out, but I was thinking about making a few different changes to it.

    Here it is as it stands right now:

    12 weeks of Test Enth. May bump up to 15 weeks depending on how I feel at around the 12 week mark. Considering going 400mg /week. L-dex onhand if needed during cycle.

    Week 1-12
    500mg /week Test Enth

    PCT
    Begins 2 weeks after my last shot. Lasts for 6 weeks.

    Week 1 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 2 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 3 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 4 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 5 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 6 - 20mgs/ed Nolva



    1st off, during weeks 2 and 3 of this cycle, I'm going to be overseas in an area where I will have access to many different AS compounds. I was throwing around the possibility of running winny for those 2 weeks, that is, unless there is something better I should consider in its place. Any suggestions on if this would be a good idea or not?

    Again, this is going to be my first cycle, and I know how a lot of people say that everyones first cycle should consist of only one compound, but...like I said, I'm going to have access to a lot of stuff I don't have access to here in the states. Plus, I'll have l-dex on hand in case any sides pop up.

    2nd, I would like to frontload so I can maximize the results of this cycle. Being that it's my first time, some people have said that I shouldn't. Is there any links to any info that shows it would be "overload" on my system, or that I would just be wasting my money doing this?

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    if you decide to run the winny, I would run it for aleast four weeks, you aren't going to notice much from two. I would try 50mg/ED

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    I personally would only do a 8-10 week cycle of Enanthate if i were starting off. Most people will tell you 10 at least, but i would say front load and do 8, even though maybe you need to expirience for yourself a 12-15 week cycle. Most of my friends, and myself, find that after week 7-8 most of the gains to be had are had and afterwords they level off. Cycle looks good though, cheers.

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    Why the 20mg of Ldex? That must be a miss-print ehh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sol
    I've got most of my first cycle ironed out, but I was thinking about making a few different changes to it.

    Here it is as it stands right now:

    12 weeks of Test Enth. May bump up to 15 weeks depending on how I feel at around the 12 week mark. Considering going 400mg /week. L-dex onhand if needed during cycle.

    Week 1-12
    500mg /week Test Enth

    PCT
    Begins 2 weeks after my last shot. Lasts for 6 weeks.

    Week 1 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 2 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 3 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 4 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 5 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed L-Dex + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 6 - 20mgs/ed Nolva



    1st off, during weeks 2 and 3 of this cycle, I'm going to be overseas in an area where I will have access to many different AS compounds. I was throwing around the possibility of running winny for those 2 weeks, that is, unless there is something better I should consider in its place. Any suggestions on if this would be a good idea or not?

    Again, this is going to be my first cycle, and I know how a lot of people say that everyones first cycle should consist of only one compound, but...like I said, I'm going to have access to a lot of stuff I don't have access to here in the states. Plus, I'll have l-dex on hand in case any sides pop up.

    2nd, I would like to frontload so I can maximize the results of this cycle. Being that it's my first time, some people have said that I shouldn't. Is there any links to any info that shows it would be "overload" on my system, or that I would just be wasting my money doing this?
    2 weeks of winny is pretty much useless, well actually 2 weeks of any oral is pretty much useless.if your looking for a jump-start, just use some d-bol for 4 weeks, dont worry about front loading untill you fully understand the benefits/risks, and have a couple more cycles under your belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecto9
    Why the 20mg of Ldex? That must be a miss-print ehh.

    Uhhh, not sure what you mean. L-dex = Arimidex if i read correctly.
    Last edited by sol; 08-02-2007 at 10:22 PM.

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    I'm going to have access to a lot of rare compounds, so this is an opportunity I don't want to miss out on. So are there suggestions for anything that I could run for 2 weeks in addition to my current test cycle, or am I just wasting my time?

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    dbol for two weeks might surfice

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