Quality of advice gone down??

[WelshWarrior]

Hi all. It seems to me that this site has become awash with newbies. Now that is no problem in itself, but I just seem to see lots of dubious advice being added to threads.

Just seems like the quality of advice has gone down. Anyone else notice this?

Is it because the number of members has gone up more than the number of vets/senior members?

What does everyone think?

[Mojoman]

Well, I am a "newbie" myself to this website. But its just because I never spent much time on computers. I joined because this is a great way to communicate and share ideas of common interest. However, even seasoned vets can offer bad advise sometimes.

[WelshWarrior]

Well, I am a "newbie" myself to this website. But its just because I never spent much time on computers. I joined because this is a great way to communicate and share ideas of common interest. However, even seasoned vets can offer bad advise sometimes.

I agree with the point on vets, but it is unusual.

Newbies that are here to learn and might be soaking up some bad advice.

I believe this website is the best thing on earth. Lots of experienced people here taking time out of their schedules to educate people with info that is often extremely hard to obtain otherwise and often dangerous if not dispensed. These fellas are real-life charity workers in my eyes.

Now, emotional moment over, I'm just concerned the fantastic values of this site are being lost a little...

[PEWN]

i think you are correct... but you just have to know whos advice you should take... its like that in the real world to.. you have to pick who you take advice from... there are still some seriously good members here that give great advice...

there is a reason people with high post counts get more respect...

[goose]

This is the direction this place wants....Newbs.....This is just the start...

[football2007]

It has been like that for awhile, where have you been?

[Big]

I think there are a variety of reasons for this. The foremost seems to me that the same questions get asked, day after day, by the endless flow of newbs that refuse to search, so some just get tired of sorting through all the bs to find the questions worth answering.

[Tock]

I think there are a variety of reasons for this. The foremost seems to me that the same questions get asked, day after day, by the endless flow of newbs that refuse to search, so some just get tired of sorting through all the bs to find the questions worth answering.

That's true . . .

I wish I had a nickle for every time I typed out a thorough explanation of sterilization, sanitation, and disinfection over in the "home cooking" section, and why it's important to keep things sterile. I dunno why newbies can't or won't search for answers to questions, but after a while, ya get exasperated answering the same thing over and over again. It's even more exasperating when newbies contradict your advice, when it's the sort of thing you deal with professionally.

Oh well.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Can I drink Winny?

[Big]

Can I drink Winny?

not on your dbol only cycle

[Merc..]

Shit if you all feel like that and are going to start threads like this than you should at least name names !! If people are giving the wrong or bad info to any members on the board then shouldn't members dispute the info on the thread( not in the lounge) to dis credit the persons info so when newbies or anyone for that matter reads the post they can get a general idea on what is right and what is wrong... Not sure who you all are referring to with this thread but it can be definitely taken out of context and offensive.. If the quailty of advise is getting bad lets make it known who is giving it so it can be addressed. We make fun of people's post in the hall of shame thread for giving bad advise so why can we name name's here???

[Big]

Shit if you all feel like that and are going to start threads like this than you should at least name names !! If people are giving the wrong or bad info to any members on the board then shouldn't members dispute the info on the thread( not in the lounge) to dis credit the persons info so when newbies or anyone for that matter reads the post they can get a general idea on what is right and what is wrong... Not sure who you all are referring to with this thread but it can be definitely taken out of context and offensive.. If the quailty of advise is getting bad lets make it known who is giving it so it can be addressed. We make fun of people's post in the hall of shame thread for giving bad advise so why can we name name's here???

I agree. I always try to give sound advice based on personal experience, but the first thing I thought when I read this was "does he mean me?"

[PEWN]

Shit if you all feel like that and are going to start threads like this than you should at least name names !! If people are giving the wrong or bad info to any members on the board then shouldn't members dispute the info on the thread( not in the lounge) to dis credit the persons info so when newbies or anyone for that matter reads the post they can get a general idea on what is right and what is wrong... Not sure who you all are referring to with this thread but it can be definitely taken out of context and offensive.. If the quailty of advise is getting bad lets make it known who is giving it so it can be addressed. We make fun of people's post in the hall of shame thread for giving bad advise so why can we name name's here???

+1 one for you....

[Lexed]

I agree with IMagetbigger. Its very rare that the questions asked by new people are something new. More then 90% of the question have been answered way to many times. People are just to dam lazy to click on search button. So people over time get more annoyed and answer the questions more briefly. Whenever someone joins I think they should get a private message that tells that a great percent of the answers are in search and if they dont find the answer make a thread. This would save these brief answers and allow for better responses.

[PEWN]

I think there are a variety of reasons for this. The foremost seems to me that the same questions get asked, day after day, by the endless flow of newbs that refuse to search, so some just get tired of sorting through all the bs to find the questions worth answering.

and like always great point made....same question... same question... age,cycle,diet,previous cycle, training ....

[Merc..]

+1 one for you....

So I am who you all are refferring to ????? What bad advise are you speaking of ???

[PEWN]

So I am who you all are refferring to ????? What bad advise are you speaking of ???

no your advice is spot on all the time... i was saying +1 for you post.. what you said was good and i agreed with it completly sorry for the confusion..

[Merc..]

no your advice is spot on all the time... i was saying +1 for you post.. what you said was good and i agreed with it completly sorry for the confusion..

No prob !!! I just didnt know what you meant . My bad , I am off on understanding shit tonight!!!! what is there a full moon or something..... LOL

Thanks for the support Pewn.. I was sick for awhile so was off the board for awhile. I was one of the first monitors ( acually the 3rd one selcted ) when everything changed staff wise on here and many of my friends from here are now gone.. So not many people here probly know me because of that and I was going to become a vet before the board rules changed( Bajan Bastard and Nark where pushing for me to be a vet or mod but then the board rules changed and I was asked by Brian to be a AR scout( thats what we where called at first ) Sorry for the rant . I just wanted to give some feedback to the peeps that dont know me....

Merc!!!

[Amorphic]

When a site becomes the most popular research tool for something like aas use, newbs flock in to get in on the buzz. The quality members we have here are faced with this all the time. Newbs just need to understand that the search button is there for a reason.

I do agree the quality of posts has gone downhill, I believe it is because the same questions are asked over and over. A lot of people get sarcastic and annoyed when the same people ask the same questions over and over and expect a response immediately, and when they are criticised to search, they take offense and the negative cycle just continues.

I dont know if there is much that can be done about it, other than being diligent towards the respected members here and allowing people that seem bright enough to be here, get the respect they deserve as well.

[Amorphic]

No prob !!! I just didnt know what you meant . My bad , I am off on understanding shit tonight!!!! what is there a full moon or something..... LOL

Thanks for the support Pewn.. I was sick for awhile so was off the board for awhile. I was one of the first monitors ( acually the 3rd one selcted ) when everything changed staff wise on here and many of my friends from here are now gone.. So not many people here probly know me because of that and I was going to become a vet before the board rules changed( Bajan Bastard and Nark where pushing for me to be a vet or mod but then the board rules changed and I was asked by Brian to be a AR scout( thats what we where called at first ) Sorry for the rant . I just wanted to give some feedback to the peeps that dont know me....

Merc!!!

I see you post merc and I appreciate what you do for the board. I've watched a lot of mods and vets, and their comments, some good and some bad. The hard work you guys put into this site doesnt go unnoticed by all

[x_moe]

what are we talking about here !?!?!??!

[dedic8ed1]

Hi all. It seems to me that this site has become awash with newbies. Now that is no problem in itself, but I just seem to see lots of dubious advice being added to threads.

Just seems like the quality of advice has gone down. Anyone else notice this?

Is it because the number of members has gone up more than the number of vets/senior members?

What does everyone think?

You know what it is man,some of the guy's like Nark,SVTmuscle,Chest6,And the O so revered Swole cat have been banned or did there own thing has left a bad taste in the mouths of guy's like you and me because of all the shite that went down when they didn't make Swole a administrater or what ever happened.But were lucky to still have guys like WEBB AND C-bino and Sman12 who is now Phoenix and Perfect beast,if I forgot anybody I apoligize,you know who you are.But there is still plenty of educated individuals here bro,we know who they are.

[Lexed]

you forgot lexed, but its ok apology accpeted

[dedic8ed1]

And for all newbs,research even the most informative advice given.And most importantly "RESEARCH the old threads guys.The amount of info on this site is priceless and you can't get mad when people don't respond rite away.For example I saw a thread about a guy who had gyno and complained about not getting a response for 4 hours.So the fuk what the people on this board don't get paid to hold the hands of newbs they do it to keep people safe and share there knowledge of the game with others.Be patient newbs were all lucky to be apart of a site that is so valuable.

[Big]

what are we talking about here !?!?!??!

they are talking about my awful advice
I can't take it, I'm going to go put my head in the oven. It's an electric oven, so this may take a while...

[x_moe]

they are talking about my awful advice
I can't take it, I'm going to go put my head in the oven. It's an electric oven, so this may take a while...

yes i agree you give awful advice, let me help you heat up that oven.

[Big]

oh the heat....it cleanses my head...as my hair begins to burn I see the error of my ways...

[Big]

that's gonna leave a mark...

[x_moe]

and I put on my robe and wizard hat

[PEWN]

and I put on my robe and wizard hat

this wont get old for a while...

[Big]

damnit, who cast +24 fire resistance on me? now I'm gonna be in this damn oven all night. Wizards...pffftt

[PEWN]

harrrrrrrr...

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

unfortunately this is going to happen... it is no ones fault. It is just the fact that more and more people are looking into the topics. Having a url of steroid.com is obviously going to bring the greenest of the green horns in.... probably the first thing that usually comes up in google.

For most of us that have been around we are NOT used to this, but i guess we will just have to get used to it or find new homes. No matter what I won't be leaving. I like it here, and I know how to weed out the good info from the bad....

I do have to say that the admin has done a fantastic job of keeping source questions out of here and I guess as long as that doesn't change I can deal.

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

Also I notice that whenever a post is made you get that message about how the admin may choose to monitor your post for whatever reason, maybe that should be manditory for all new members so that they can keep the repeatative questions out of here.

[goose]

Ha Ha......newbs.....only if you knew when the great pinn was here.They were the days....More newbs means more money for the board.It`s all about money in the end.

[dedic8ed1]

Ha Ha......newbs.....only if you knew when the great pinn was here.They were the days....More newbs means more money for the board.It`s all about money in the end.

Yatzee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PEWN]

money .... money...money... rules all...

[Amorphic]

In a place like this, where a certain few make the money, for them of course money rules all.

[Merc..]

I see you post merc and I appreciate what you do for the board. I've watched a lot of mods and vets, and their comments, some good and some bad. The hard work you guys put into this site doesnt go unnoticed by all

Thanks Amorphic !!!!!


Merc!!!!!!

[Doc.Sust]

And for all newbs,research even the most informative advice given.And most importantly "RESEARCH the old threads guys.The amount of info on this site is priceless and you can't get mad when people don't respond rite away.For example I saw a thread about a guy who had gyno and complained about not getting a response for 4 hours.So the fuk what the people on this board don't get paid to hold the hands of newbs they do it to keep people safe and share there knowledge of the game with others.Be patient newbs were all lucky to be apart of a site that is so valuable.

that is the key word. research. do you know how many repeat questions i answer even when there are stickies explaing that very question posted right before their eyes? to many times to count. 90% of the info needed is already here, all that is needed is for people to search for it